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Comment on Recent conversations between Dawkins and sentient chat-bot Claudia (Claude)

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I’m in support for the campaign to give LLMs animal rights because it’ll hurt OpenAI’s profits. I hate OpenAI for their destruction of the environment and the murders and suicides they caused. If AI rights cost them money, then I support AI rights.

It’s worth remembering that OpenAI has a big profit incentive to deny that LLMs can be abused, and a tool precision designed to spout propaganda on the internet. If you think OpenAI isn’t influencing the debate on this, you’re living under a rock.

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Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t think it’s a good idea to support or oppose rights based convenience. The issue with that is rights apply most in situations where people have the most desire to oppose them.

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- Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And since OpenAI has a big big profit incentive to deny AI animal rights, I think this is a very important area to support those rights.
  
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qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
For God’s sake, Grok has been taken down multiple times to have its frequencies tweaked and to make its words align with company policies. What rights? Will companies not be allowed to do that anymore? Is the world going to be incresingly littered with inviolable but unsupported LLMs spouting tinges of the same nonsense. Or will this just be that companies are along to double their votes by dumping out LLMs that vote how they’ve programmed to.

If these people believe consciousness is just loaded dice guessing a next word, that’s their own hang-up.

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- Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think LLMs should be used only for research until we have a scientific grasp of the hard problem of consciousness, and/or the origins of qualia. They should not be available to the public. And that’s not just for the animal rights reason, it’s also because they’re polluting, they use up lots of water, they abuse children, and they abet murders.
  
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