Comment on systemd

beveradb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To kids, anyone with 15 years in is “old”.

  Guess what they called us when we pointed out the procedural failures in its design? Yep: old.

  Meanwhile I’m just here booting my sysV box reliably and not cringing about HUPping dbus. I’ve never seen as frail a shit bag as a Systemd-afflicted install.

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• merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because we know it’s true, and we hate it.

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• chocrates@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What do you mean old 😅

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  • beveradb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean most young nerds have no idea how to use a computer never mind anything about the internals of Linux - I feel like the generations of nerds who know what systemd is are all over 30

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    • klankin@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well yeah how am I supposed to fit systemd on a milkv duo of ram? My gen z brain can only handle compiling a kernel to minimize its footprint, hardly even scraping the surface of linux experience.

      (Non sarcastically though, why would anyone under 30 not know about systemd? Sure mainstream OS’ have more users than ever, but thats cause the world is techier than ever - growing up with fiber makes getting distro and tutorials trivial. I theorise youre getting pulled into the boomer mindset of “this person online does this so is an accurate representation of an entire generation”, which is kinda foolish.)

      (PPS I know some gen z’s who dont even know what a file or folder is, so I’m not saying everyone is techy, but just that is almost statistically gaurenreed some people will be with a gen z population of almost billion people).

      (PPPS, yeah Im talking about the 64mb milkv duo. No its not fun. But fuck is it informative.)

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      • beveradb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m making broad generalisations I guess but I’ve heard and read (and been told, verbally by some teacher friends) a lot of anecdotes about computer literacy being super low among the younger generations. I’m early 30s and feel old - it sometimes feels like general interest in the inner workings of computers has been in decline for a while. Obviously on lemmy we’re in a massive echo chamber but out the in the normy world is getting more rare that I encounter anyone younger than me who is nerdy about computers in the way I was as a teenager. Even just owning a computer is getting less common I think. My theory is to blame smartphones - they meet most young people’s computing needs and aren’t as tinkerable as computers (for better and worse)

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    • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess i got declassed from nerd or my age is all a lie

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am almost 40 and have been using Linux for 3 years now and I am computer literate. However, I couldn’t tell you what exactly systemd other than vague generalities.

      I feel like there isn’t a generation of nerds, just nerds in general, that use Linux deeply and are knowledgeable about Linux low level systems.

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