CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Are you looking for historical context?
In Asia, being darker means you’re a lower class because you have to work outside. This colorism persists to this day, just look at the common beauty standards in Asia right now.
Add to that there’s a general worship of money and you can see where white ethnicities would be considered the most acceptable interracial coupling.
There are also extremely few black peoples in Asia, so there’s very little direct interaction. Everything they know about black people they learn from TV and movies and the news. So the only exposure they see are the common stereotypes.
It’s not like there’s much movement towards alleviating these issues because they don’t see it as a problem.
So for Asian women growing up in America, this exposure is a new experience and it’s not something that can be explained to the parents. The parents who of course forbid dating until after college and then expect grandchildren. Obviously what happens is that activities are hidden from the parents.
I remember in college I went on a few dates with an Asian woman of my same race who would hide if she thought someone saw us together. Imagine if she was seen with someone outside her race! Scandal!
Another issue is simply socioeconomics. Growing up in the South you end up with relatively wealthy Asians living near poor black neighborhoods leading to obvious disparities in crime. These type of situations perpetuate the stereotypes.
Hope this gives you some context.
NeverHomeSick7@thelemmy.club 3 days ago
Thanks…to be honest, I’m pretty much over it. I am not a racist but it’s kinda hard to be nice to people who I think are inherently racist.
So, I walk past Asians almost everyday now. I’m from Chicago and there are area’s where you just don’t see an Asian person versus downtown or Chinatown. Here, in the Pacific Northwest, and in my commute or frequent routes, I see Africans, Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Arabs and Asians (a large mix: API’s, Southeast Asian and the exotic “pool”) in the same stores, on the same trains. Now, I haven’t gone looking for a predominant Asian neighborhood or community or anything like that, hell, I haven’t even asked an actual Asian person that I know this posted question face to face and I talk to some Asian people in a professional manner but not personal.
My point is, when it’s convenient for the AF in public, they get in a close proximity to me for safety of a more determined threat. Not every person is the same, I know this. However, it’s is very much the case that more Asian male and female tend to avert their eyes or situate themselves away from other Black or African people or myself when it’s white people or no one else around.
I don’t have to take any offense to that. But it is viewed and I think to myself, I could say fuck Asian people and join the anti-asian people. I’m not; But I dont even know who is attacking them or why. I don’t know any sane Black person who speaks or acts hostile toward Asian people. I only really know my white pals who love or fetishize over Asian people. And not all or every type of Asian. Most of my Black friends don’t (a better way to put it) are not attracted to Asian women. It’s because the image and or stereotype is that AF’s don’t have large bums. And are often flat chested. I beg to disagree but I’m me and I love all types of females and often times, I see the AF and her body type as a plus. Petite is a nice aging trait.
Now, I HAVE heard of Black females stating they wouldn’t mind an Asian man’s attention but I have not heard or can recall a Black female stating a resentment or personal relationship of hate or disdain for an Asian man. I have only heard of the distrust and rudeness of an Asian restaurant and the fallout being projected as racism. I know of the stupid stereotype of a Chinese restaurant and animals we call pets. But I take it as a intended rude and bigot joke.
I can’t speak for any Black female and I don’t speak for every Black male. The conversation people are offering in response to my posted questions (which may not be the best framing of the question) is shallow, ignorant, one sided, obnoxious, intentional obfuscation, deflection and bad-faith engagement. Majority of the response don’t seem to come from a Black or Asian person with experience to the question. I appreciate the responses because it provides ME some context.
I don’t think this platform has a large pool or community of people of color to begin with. But to be honest I don’t know and I am not going to research that.
So, I kinda figured just leave Asian people alone. I’m only one person. I highly doubt my business or engagement would change a whole body of people. Seriously. I mean, I thought I liked Asian people but, I just might like my Filipino male friends, Thai male friends and Japanese anime. And some Asian foods. And samurai and swords…and…nevermind.
I don’t like reading that their parents teach them to be this or that way towards Black people. My parents and step parents, nor my relatives, taught me to hate or dislike any people. They WARNED me about white people but, were clear that white people are not all the same. They warned me about how (I’m ashamed of this part) all other race kiss ass up to white people. They for the majority agree that white people hold the highest status in the society as we know it but, that in order to have done that that white people shitted on every race throughout history. I studied some history too and came to that conclusion too. But I still don’t treat every white person as the racist person in a history book.
It was said that, when I was a kid, the Asian people or China would take over the world. Outsmart and outnumber us all. As a naive child then, watching so many karate and taekwondo films, I believed it and mentally sided with the idea with excitement. As I got older my opinion of China clearly changed but I still was excited about the Asian population and wanted to align with them in partaking of food and culture sharing. I’m from the South Side of Chicago so…that was a uncommon thing for most. Not for me per se because I ventured downtown a lot and have and had family on the North side. I think the Asian community there is different though.
I dated Asian females. However, I was oblivious to the racist portion, if there was any from the parents. I don’t know if I was hidden or just lucky.
But I didn’t and don’t just date one race. I maybe a lucky guy with looks or something but I don’t know if that’s the case and that be solid 🤔
However, after seeing what I see now in Washington state, I kinda want to help personally but, I see this lack of interest or purposeful distance too much that it’s started to make me feel like: Don’t support them, leave them alone, let them suffer in silence like most Black people do…I don’t know. Like, if or when a Asian is attacked and it’s on the news, I should not care. Be numb to the entire process. Wait for the next segment to come on or just turn the channel. As an American and former Marine I’m conflicted and I don’t think it’s right. But I feel like I have to choose a side.
I’m telling my truth. That’s my feeling and how I felt.
If you read this…shaking my head. Have a blessed life in this strange fucked up world. Cause it’s just weird 😕