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• explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And once we’ve won those primaries, then the DNC will be aligned with our fucking best interests.

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• Therms45@europe.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So you think that if Sanders becomes the leader of the democratic party (he won’t), all of the lobbies and all of the billionaires interests that are behind both Democratic and Republican parties, are gonna suddenly disappear? Unfortunately that’s not how it works.

  Voting for the democratic party would alsocbe against your self-interest as member of the working class, just as much as republican. You need to realise the US is a one party system, Democratic and Republican are two branches of the same party.

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  • Klox@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What’s your strategy? Sanders hasnt become the DNC leader yet, so I reject your premise that it can’t work. We’ve seen how the GOP party can change, for the worse. The billionaires will exist in whatever youre proposing, right up until they don’t exist, so thats not any kind of counter argument.

    They are not the same party. Wake the fuck up. Maybe you could say that two years ago, but gestures broadly.

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    • Therms45@europe.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What are you gesturing at specifically? Obama put kids in cages too. Obama bombed the middle east too. They are literally the same party, one is served with mayo the other with ketchup, but both are the same dish. The both serve the same ruling class.

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      • Klox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m not interested in debating against willful ignorance. You’re literally making a false equivalence logical fallacy. Obama didn’t dismantle our institutions. Obama didn’t separate kids from their parents and intentionally not leave a paper trail so as to effectively make the kids orphans. Obama didn’t execute citizens under the guise of immigration enforcement. Obama didn’t commit blatant fraud and quid pro quo. Obama didn’t attack lgbtq+ rights. Be angry if you want, but don’t be ignorant. Obama isn’t the best of the DNC party; we need better, but willful ignorance won’t get is there.

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  • Kalothar@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re partially incorrect, or at least obfuscating things to support your point. It’s much more complicated than how I believe you’re expressing it.

    The human race has an oligarch problem and the U.S. has a two party issue and happens to be were capital has been concentrated for the past ~60 years.

    Simply look at past policy decisions, who is repealing precedent, international relations, environmental protections, Supreme Court decisions (and their written opinions) over the last two presidential terms is enough to show the difference between the two parties.

    Our problem doesn’t simply lie in our political structure (which is a mathematical guarantee of our government system). There are solutions on the table and the only viable pathway to meaningful change without violence is through voting in the U.S. or you know prolonged violent conflict. My point being the U.S. has a problem with their policymakers and representation for sure.

    But let’s be clear here the human race is experiencing oligarchical pressure in so many places more than just the US.

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