Comment on What’s the difference between communism and socialism?

• SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  At that point it’s potato, potay-toh. Marx and pretty much every communist philosopher defined it as stateless.

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  • nullify3112@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This makes me very confused because I believe there was nothing stateless about the USSR, even early on following the October revolution. The red army, the new economic policies, the food seizures, forced conscription, the supremacy of the politburo… weren’t they literally banning strikes in factories by claiming all the social issues had been resolved through the soviets, when it wasn’t the case at all (the small bourgeoisie/managers came back and we’re still somewhat in charge)? When I look at it, the power of the Soviet state was omnipresent. But maybe I’m not knowledgeable enough?

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The USSR was not communist. They had a communist ideology, sure, but the definition essentially comes down to a communist society being stateless while also being a dictatorship of the proletariat (that is, ALL the workers are essentially the leader at the same time and they make decisions collectively through direct democracy). And the USSR could only barely fit that definition for about one or two years before Lenin essentially steered it into a regular autocratic dictatorship with communist aesthetics.

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      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So essentially, communism is defined as something that cannot exist in reality.

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