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Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoBut that’s not what socialism is. Socialism is when the “public” (read: government) controls all of societies land, resources, and means of production and distributes them from ability to need. Socialism is a specific economic system where the entire economy is centrally planned.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re mixing like 3 definitions of socialism:
Socialism encompasses a much larger group of movements and ideas with lots of differing thought schools largely tasked with improving society in economic ways. Democracy can be argued to be under the umbrella of socialism and socialist thought depending on how things are defined which is why there is such staunch anti democracy sentiments from capitalists.
Like the more developed ideas on socialism are where the benefits of capitalism are realized but the costs are offset or synthetic.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is a load of nonsense. Socialism is not a blanket term that you can manipulate to mean whatever you like, the same goes for capitalism where you turn it into a pejorative for anything you don’t like. Democracy is also very much not socialism is any way, shape, or form and they have zero connection to each other.
Socialism is an economic model that revolves the concept that all the resources, property, and means of production in a society are publicly owned and managed, aka a centrally planned economy. Democracy is when the people govern themselves. There are ideologies that try to interoperate both, these are very much not the same thing. The same goes for capitalism which is an economic model which revolves around economies being run by free markets, aka unplanned economies.
Socialism is NOT state capitalism, it’s NOT welfare programs, and it NOT public schools or infrastructure. A country like Denmark is NOT socialist because it has universal healthcare and public schools. In fact when Bernie Sanders called them socialist in his 2016 campaign, the PM of Denmark at the time literally came out and correct him by saying that Denmark was capitalist. An actual example of socialism would be the Soviet Union or China under Mao.