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Riverside@reddthat.com 1 day agoYou try to force the human condition into something you think you can quantify and control and call that science?
No, I approach history, sociology and economy as sciences instead of as vibes-based. I support the system that historically statistically fed the children, not the one that claims in theory it can feed the children without having prisons.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 day ago
Sure sure buddy. How many children ended up orphans thanks to the gulags? Bet they received a quality upbringing. Oh and the gays in the gulags wanted to be there right?
That’s authoritarianism, not getting banned from a meme comm.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Wont somebody please think of the poor princes??? How many kids had to grow up without their nazi collaborator dad there to guide them on the path of
fascismanticommunism?Riverside@reddthat.com 1 day ago
To be fair, there was excess repression during the late 1930s in the USSR, but people massively inflate the numbers and won’t ever tell that only about 1/4 of prisoners in the prison system (whose acronym was GULAG) were actually politically motivated. People also don’t understand that the harsh conditions in Soviet prisons were due to a Soviet-wide famine caused by the Nazi aggression:
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Edie@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Afaik not true. The average westerner may think so, but GULAG is an acronym for a specific part of the system.
copypasted my earlier comment
if you would consult the chart from chapter 10: Image The etymology of GULAG is: “the acronym of Гла́вное управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х лагере́й (Glávnoje upravlénije ispravítelʹno-trudovýx lageréj, “Chief Administration of Corrective-Labor Camps”)” emphasis mine, as it corresponds directly to the above, specifically the camps under the O.G.P.U. These are where those with harsher sentences were sent, as seen in the chart (3-10 years)
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
right but this person isnt really the nuanced type, they’re cherrypicking and so am I
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Thrers an old joke: Two guys in Gulag talk,
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 day ago
Everyone thrown in gulags was a prince!!!!!!1one
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
All those queers? Princes. All those different socialists? Also princes. Hundreds of kingdoms, with millions of dollars each.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
owned
Riverside@reddthat.com 1 day ago
And here we go with the cold-war propaganda :D called you from the first second.
Anarchism in Spain led to many, many more gays in concentration camps and murdered than in the USSR because anarchism cannot historically defeat fascism! That’s the authoritarianism you should be focusing on, especially in 2026 as we see the rise of fascism once again
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 day ago
It’s called history, I thought you studied it? :D or do you neglect the parts of history that showcase how bad authoritarianism is.
If anarchism is to blame for a different system that came after it than Marxist-Leninism is to blame for the capitalist shithole that is Russia today.
Go choke on a boot, I got better things to do than argue with you.
Riverside@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Literally yes, we Marxist leninists study history in order to prevent the same mistakes. That’s why we have entire books devoted to the topic such as “Socialism Betrayed” analyzing the history and mistakes of the socialists in the USSR that led to its dissolution. Imagine engaging in honest criticism of your own ideology.
Still, Marxist Leninism brought 70 years of development and human rights to a former absolutist monarchy and saved its inhabitants from extermination at the hands of Nazism, and it still survives in many countries like Cuba, Vietnam, Laos or freaking China.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Ignoring the part where they’re 100% right about spanish anarchists throwing people in camps because it’s inconvenient for your bullshit lol, try again