We could always simply change the rules and boom now it is illegal. What’s the argument then lol. Rules are made up so claiming “well it’s not against the rules” is a retarded argument cuz we can simply change the rules. It’s not good to have undocumented people in the country which is why civilized countries don’t allow this
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days agosigh, are you sure you need to be this angry? feel free to hurt yourself with that high blood pressure. seriously chill, you’re the one who began insulting.
No one is illegal. period… you can do illegal stuff, but illegal is not something you are. Not only because of civil violations/misdemeanor… but because “illegal” isn’t a personal trait.
If “being” for some people is an illegal act, that is an apartheid dystopian nightmare.
and yes, I’ll say the United States has immigration apartheid. immigrants have a different set of laws, courts, and punishments for crimes. that’s a form of apartheid.
If an undocumented is caught speeding, they can get deported, while a citizen just gets a fine.
other counties are even granting immigrants voting rights, while here they are practically treated as subhuman cheap labor.
musicjunkie@lemmy.world 6 days ago
nsrxn@mstdn.social 6 days ago
"civilized"
your imperialism is showing
nsrxn@mstdn.social 6 days ago
id argue it's not good to let systems of governance document people
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days ago
remember the time Germany or Israel declared a few million people aren’t legally people?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days ago
can we step asside, are you going about this from an anarchist side, like rules are arbitrary and the state can declare anyone illegal, and that is BAD.
Or as a conservative, that thinks immigrants are bad criminals?
because so far I interpreted the later.
musicjunkie@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Neither? I was making an argument against the logic not really a political position as I am neither an anarchist nor a conservative. China is a Marxist state and they don’t allow unregulated immigration as it dilutes any sense of nationalism and shared cultural identity and the result of this is a very unified country given their population.
If it’s not “a crime” to be undocumented then we could simply make this a crime and problem solved. The people who are upset about enforcement of civil crimes as if they are illegal have no more ground to stand on and America can still have rules that help maintain a national identity. Appeal to the rules is a bad logical argument as it presupposes that rules are eternal and made by God and I’m more of a materialist myself
morkyporky@suppo.fi 6 days ago
Is English not your first language or are you just dumb? Being undocumented is illegal. Its just a fact.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days ago
get it, you are a racist cunt.
is English your only language, because you can barely write without spewing shite.
morkyporky@suppo.fi 6 days ago
I’m actually impressed you can get on the internet with how fucking stupid you are. I’m racist because I said being undocumented is illegal. Makes total sense. I’m starting to feel bad making fun of you, like is it hate crime because you’re so dumb? Do you have a handicap parking pass because otherwise you’d get lost on your way to the store?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Keep barking dog.