BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You have to boot without network access then do the terminal command.
What distro of Linux did you use that was so difficult? Something like Mint is very entry level and intuitive. You don’t have to run any terminal commands if you don’t want to, and the out of box configuration is good enough that you don’t have to modify anything for a stable, up to date system.
Mint requires running a terminal command to disable the stupid printer notification.
It also doesn’t support Logitech mice out of the box, you have to search for the solution, which is a third party app to support a 10 year old (or brand new) mouse.
Stop acting like it’s a direct swap and people will be less hesitant to switch.
What do you mean by “support” here? I’m pretty sure Logitech mice will work fine, but you might need a tool to change on-device settings.
100%.
Logitech mice work fine out of the box as a generic mouse. You only need third party software if you want to mess around with the Logitech special-sauce stuff.
Neither Windows or Mac have ‘support’ fo r that either, until you install Logitech’s software. Of course, Logitech as a company don’t provide any software for Linux.
So if anything, it’s not that “Linux doesn’t support Logitech” it’s that Logitech doesn’t Support Linux
So if anything, it’s not that “Linux doesn’t support Logitech” it’s that Logitech doesn’t Support Linux.
While you are correct, you’re also missing the point. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. The end user doesn’t care whose “fault” it is. They only care that they have a tool in front of them that does not meet their needs. If the end user needs a mouse with a billion macro buttons, then an OS that does not support a mouse with a billion macro buttons will not work for them. If you want that user to be a happy Linux user, then you’d better make that mouse work.
Half the people in this thread can’t see that most people, no I don’t mean most people on Lemmy, just most people period, want their computer to be a tool, a means to an end. They want it to get out of the way and enable them to crunch spreadsheet numbers or play video games or paint digital art or process words. If you’re an able-bodied software developer, desktop Linux is an excellent tool. If you’re an able-bodied anything else and have found that Linux works for you, good on you, but you’re a minority. If you’re a disabled anything else and have found that Linux works for you, please tell me how because I would love nothing more than to leave Windows and go somewhere that lets my personal computer be my personal computer.
If you use Excel every day, switching is likely not pragmatic, as the OSS solutions simply don’t compare yet and will always fall short if you use tables (about 90% of the spreadsheets I’ve ever been sent).
thisthisthisthis. I use Excel tables constantly. It’s a common theme with LibreOffice. Got something simple, maybe a doc with a few headers? Great, no problem, you can interoperate just fine. But go off the beaten path and you inevitably run into trouble. If I were sharing documents with exactly nobody I could happily switch, but the reality is I have to work with other people. And Windows/Office is what other people use.
Regarding Ming, Bluetooth is maddeningly inconsistent. I’ve had stuff that works perfectly… exactly once, then never ever again, no matter what unspeakable tortures I inflict on the Bluetooth settings or what arcane wizardry I attempt in the terminal.
I asked what they have tried, I didn’t say they have to switch. I was providing some information that perhaps they didn’t have. You don’t have to be a righteous butthole about it.
early_riser@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I started with Ubuntu 8.10 in early 2009. From there I’ve tried mostly Ubuntu but have explored other distros. My usage pattern usually goes like this. I get sick of some Windows BS or just want to convince myself I’m a competent IT industry professional. I install some Linux distro on a separate SSD and only boot into that for as long as I can. The phase usually lasts from a week to about 2 or 3 months. My longest I think was between November 2023 and March of 2024 where I used Mint. I’ve tried all the various *buntus, Pop!_OS, CentOS (RIP). I’ve even used Arch ^btw^, installed it myself and everything. In the end I either run into something that simply doesn’t exist on Linux or get sick of arcane kludges for things that just work on Windows and then come crawling back to Bill feeling defeated. This happens at least once a year but usually more.
Non-existent accessibility is the biggest hurdle, and I have zero faith that it will improve. Accessibility is an afterthought even for huge companies with the resources to devote to it, and you can forget about it for the comparatively smaller loose associations of developers contributing to the software stack that is a typical Linux distro. I was there for the transition from GNOME 2 to Unity and eventually to GNOME 3, as well as from X to Wayland, and it’s just been downhill each time. Orca simply doesn’t work, period. Magnification, if present at all, is glitchy and prone to freezing or crashing. The best I can do is a workaround using espeak and xclip to speak text copied to the clipboard, which, yes, involves the terminal. Is it cool that that’s possible? sure. But I have to put an alias into my .bashrc and constantly tab back and forth between whatever I’m reading and the terminal. Not a big deal if you’re only doing it once or twice, but I have to do it hundreds of times a day. If you encounter a little issue that often it’s no longer little. On windows it’s just ctrl+alt+LMB that’s it.
I find it’s really hard to impress upon sighted users why this is a problem. Imagine someone hands you a laptop, but the monitor either doesn’t work or shuts off at random. Then when you complain, you’re told “It works for me” or “That’s not my problem” or “I don’t know how to help you” or if you’re lucky, a half-dismissive “We’re working on it.” That’s Linux when you’re blind. Can you live with a non working display? Would you call an OS like that ready to ship? Yes this is a problem with commercial software as well, but it’s orders of magnitude worse with Linux.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 day ago
I just cannot imagine in any way microslop being more helpful in that regard or any, if there is any os where the magnifier is broken it is windows
early_riser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What makes you qualified to make that statement? I have to rely on assistive software to use a computer. I am the only judge of what meets my needs, and years of trying to use it have informed me that desktop Linux does not meet my needs. period. end of discussion. I have made the reasons why clear elsewhere in this thread.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 day ago
I am the sole arbiter of what I am wondering about and it’s not if Linux meets your needs if you look closer