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glimse@lemmy.world â¨9⊠â¨hours⊠agoI feel like any civilization advanced enough is going to have no problem with that.
A body of water is connected but you can count the waves. Theyâd surely count repetition, too, such as their planet rotating and and orbiting itâs starting. Or sound - âclickâ one âclick clickâ two.
And if theyâre as intelligent as humans, both species are able to learn new abstract concepts
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works â¨9⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I mean this is all a hypothetical, so let me throw some blockers at you:
They donât distinguish between wave and not-wave, assuming they dont have a Lacanian concept of language and their pre-language concept of what we would call a wave is actually the average distance from the bottom of the ocean in an arbitrary field of qualia whereby they average out âextendedâ phenomena from an âunextendedâ experience of the average of the different forms of background radiation.
In which case they couldnât count a planet rotation and have no concept of counting or rotation but would express it instead as an average speed and direction in relation to the absorbed radiation of different astral and planetary (by which I mean âterrestrialâ for lack of a better word when not talking about our planet) bodies? So what is a year to us is a limitless expression of the average rate of change of the comparative rate of radiation from the nearest star and the largest vent in the bottom of their ocean? They express this by making parts of their carapace emit different strengths of radiation in different directions. Would we even know to call those emissions a language?
glimse@lemmy.world â¨4⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I donât know enough about the stuff to form a strong argument but I feel if they live on our plane of existence, they experience time. And if theyâre intelligent enough to communicate with us, they could perceive the passing of it. Counting events of some kind would just come naturally
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works â¨4⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I guess Iâm just saying we donât know that for sure. We donât even really know if lobsters or mushrooms or trees âexperienceâ time. We know shrimps probably experience colors we canât conceive of, itâs not that far removes from reality.