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1984@lemmy.today 2 hours agoThank you. At least I understand it but its a shame that he cant be a better person. What is the point of fighting evil if you are going to be equally evil yourself?
8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 hours ago
Traditionally, America has seen itself as standing for goodness, morality, doing the right thing, Democracy, etc… Most of the voters have, at least.
Trump does not think that. Look at Venezuela: It is open and blatant colonialism, resource extraction. Trump has just come out and said that he doesn’t care if the Venezuelan people have freedom and democracy - Trump only cares about profiting from resource extraction. Now maybe America has sometimes acted like this in the past, but Trump openly stating it is new.
This open disregard for doing doing what is morally right is a new thing. Which Trump can do without consequences from Republican voter, apparently - Trump still had ~90% approval among them, last I checked.
So in conclusion, asking “What is the point of fighting evil” is a non sequitur - Trump is not claiming to be the good side fighting evil.
As another example, look at Ukraine. Rarely have I seen a more black-and-white, good-vs-evil conflict. A fascist dictator is invading a budding democracy, with the openly stated purpose of annexation, without even pretending to have a casus belli. With Putin openly doing warcrimes left and right, torturing and executing prisoners of war, threatening nukes, and sending his own soldiers on suicide “meat assaults”. And yet, Republicans and Trump seems more sympathetic to Putin than Ukraine.
1984@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Yeah. You are right about Trump. American presidents used to at least make up lies about why they were invading middle eastern countries. Trump is honest because he doesnt care what anyone thinks.
8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 hours ago
Like, it was not all a lie. E.g. the 1991 Gulf War was perfectly morally defensible, while at the same time being in the US economic interest. But there is no inherent problem with defending your economic interest. And the US deserves unqualified praise for the 1999 Serbia intervention to prevent a genocide in Kosovo.
What the US is doing in Venezuela is (at least Trump thinks so) in the US economic interest. But completely amoral at the same time.
I don’t see why Europe would necessarily turn evil.
1984@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Because it also has a dark elite, with people wanting power. Its not going to stand alone and fight evil on all fronts. Even if they tried, they would lose.