If you’re interested in a comfier trip, I hope you’re able to find them someday! I was lucky and just stumbled across them via friend groups. I’ve tried everything basically… my friends all seem to like the 2c chems, but I’ve tried them all and haven’t been a fan. I HATE 25i. Hate hate hate. I spit out immediately. Ptooey.
AMT is very comfy, same with 4aco. I was a bit sad when we came down from those, and usually at the end of a trip, I’m very ready for it to be done. They both just felt like really clean mushy trips with no shitting.
5-MeO-DiPT was the WEIRDEST time I’ve ever had in my life. Insane body load, insane auditory distortion, and my only experience with temporal distortion… we were listening to a song we were extremely familiar with and the song would pitch down, our bodies would become heavy, and time would sloooowww doowwwnnn like the song was being played on a turntable at too low of an RPM. Absolutely insane feelings. I was SO happy it was over when we came down but I was also very happy I had that crazy experience.
Im going to save this but it sounds like those aren’t just various strains of mushies? and idk if id go out of my way to obtain drugs i cant cultivate myself. I like the idea of mushrooms and i have spores and stuff, just not motivated to grow a new batch.
Ive seen extracts of mushies, called “crystals of the gods” which is a dumb name but the only extraction method ive found, and thats what I want to try, because its supposed to completely get rid of the body problems associated with it, though not the enhancement of your natural mood (in my case mostly anxiety)
Im kinda afraid of human-made or refined drugs, tbh. What if i like them?
If I recall correctly, a lot of the gastric stuff is due to chitin in the cells walls, which humans generally can’t digest. Probably also related to the fact that most people eat them dry. I could be entirely repeating bro science, idk.
People have reported making tea with the mushrooms (unlike THC, psilocybin is water-soluble), or soaking them in lemon juice (idea, I think, is that the acidity breaks up the cell walls a bit more) prior to ingestion helps. Don’t trust me, though, look into these independently if it’s of interest.
I’ve heard of the crystals, but iirc there was some question if they’re really psilocybin. You can extract psilocybin into liquid, though. There’s reduced body load and little to no stomach issues or nausea. The method I used for making it is in one of the books by Virginia Haze and K Mandrake - I think the psilocybin chef cookbook, but not positive.
Basically, you soak the shrooms in everclear to get out as much of the psilocybin as you can, then let the everclear evaporate so you’re left with a tiny amount of very concentrated fluid. Just add 1ml to some juice and you’re on your way. Been a while since I did it and I screwed it up a little, but it was way more mellow than eating the raw shrooms while still being effective. I’ve still got the rest of the little vial I made in the freezer, for whenever I’m stable enough to handle it again.
Nawhhh those are not actually psilocybin, so if you’re only looking for mushies, you’d probably not be as into those! All of the things I mentioned are powders you eat, except 25i which is sold as acid but it tastes bad, is a bad feeling, and can harm or kill (unlike acid)
I don’t blame your apprehension! The things I’ve mentioned are once-per-year or once-ever drugs for me. I will only ever do 5-MeO-DiPT again because my current (forever) partner has never tried it and would like to. None of the things I’ve talked about are addictive, but they are man-made. Mephedrone is the most evil man-made chemical. It’s like ecstasy you sniff and it makes you feel REALLY good, for a little while. And then you can just do more. And there’s no hangover! …until you do it a few times. Then it becomes the most fiendy thing in the world, ever. I’ve tried everything and the only problems were alcohol, Xanax (both were not terrible to quit, just a few days of feeling not great and getting bad sleep.) Meth was fine but didn’t me wanna keep doing it. Opiates were okay but maybe just not for me, they felt cool but the only good type I’ve ever tried was smoking actual opium, that smelled awesome and felt nice.
But Mephedrone… the final time I did it, both nostrils were clogged and bloody and dry and I couldn’t breathe out of them and ALL I COULD DO was look at the white pile in front of us and watch my mates take lil toots and salivate, thinking “oh my god I would do ANYTHING to get more of that into me right now”. It was an all-consuming feeling and thought, encompassing my entire existence. Eating it doesn’t work very well and at that time, I hadn’t plugged anything (put it in my bum) or I would have taken a chunk of it and gone to the bathroom. It was THAT fiendy.
I woke up the next day smelling of cat piss (Mephedrone reeks) and was astonished something could make me feel that way. I vowed never to touch it again—I kept that vow.
That was like 15 years ago or so. If someone was like “I have a gram, wanna snort it” I would 100% say yes absolutely in a microsecond. But now I’m old and wiser and know I can’t just have piles around… the other worst part is how cheap it was. Five, ten USD a gram in bulk, and a gram is a LOT, takes you way further than a gram of coke.
Evil, addictive, fiendy shit. Don’t ever do it. But it’s fucking amazing. (I feel like I’m in that scene from Walk Hard the way I talk about it.)
Yeah, thats exactly what i want to avoid, things that are good enough that even without being addictive, i want them. I wont even grow poppies for poppy tea because I’m afraid i will become low-grade addicted to it as a result of simply not being in constant pain for a change (fucked up thing to consider, but true as someone with chronic pain). My mom made me promise to keep her oxy after she passed because it was much harder for me to get pain treatment than it should be, but it just made me throw up (same it did to her, but we assumed it was the cancer), so i gave it to a friend who needed it. I know myself and i -really- like escape. It used to be books, as a kid, but now its all sorts of things. Because i can.
Mostly i want things with low addiction (physical or psychological) risk, ideally also somewhat beneficial, and no or very low chance of bad experience, because my brain does that anyway. Also kinda has to be fairly easy to get without a shady middle-man, because i don’t know people and buying shit on tor isn’t appealing to me at all. The hardest thing I’ve done was extacy cut with meth, and i listened to my druggy ex and boofed it (our slang for bum-hole administration, tho i learned later i should have shoved it in my vagina instead, thats way way better for drug absorption due to the sheer quantity of blood vessels and the moist environment, to the point that it used to he a common medical application in hospital). Honestly, i loved it, and would exist that way forever if i could. And thats the problem. I’m glad i don’t have easy access to it now. Id like to use it again in controlled therapy settings, as long as they’ve got some good beats and highlighters on hand. But as a result of using it, techno gives me anxiety now. Used to really love it. So even in mild ways the best of things can fuck with you.
I don’t really struggle with drugs other than alcohol (and thats a weird one because i just fall out of use, same as weed, after months or years of heavy use), but thats mostly because i don’t use anything else particularly addictive because i don’t trust myself. Actually, because i know what I’d do. I seem to fall out of alcohol use when my mental state improves to the point i don’t need a crutch. But until then, its bad. Ngl. And weed just stops being fun periodically, so sometimes i take years-long breaks even though it’s good for my pain.
Im super interested in drugs, though. Like genuinely id love to try them all with no risk. I used to read bluelight just to imagine how it felt. I want VR to work for me because that feels like a mild trip (makes me hella nauseated, so no dice until holodeck exists).
Im glad you’ve come out the other end of it reasonably intact, sounds like :) And thank you for sharing your experiences with me, for my edification :) i genuinely appreciate it. If you want to share more, even about other substances, id be interested in reading it, to live vicariously through you :)
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
If you’re interested in a comfier trip, I hope you’re able to find them someday! I was lucky and just stumbled across them via friend groups. I’ve tried everything basically… my friends all seem to like the 2c chems, but I’ve tried them all and haven’t been a fan. I HATE 25i. Hate hate hate. I spit out immediately. Ptooey.
AMT is very comfy, same with 4aco. I was a bit sad when we came down from those, and usually at the end of a trip, I’m very ready for it to be done. They both just felt like really clean mushy trips with no shitting.
5-MeO-DiPT was the WEIRDEST time I’ve ever had in my life. Insane body load, insane auditory distortion, and my only experience with temporal distortion… we were listening to a song we were extremely familiar with and the song would pitch down, our bodies would become heavy, and time would sloooowww doowwwnnn like the song was being played on a turntable at too low of an RPM. Absolutely insane feelings. I was SO happy it was over when we came down but I was also very happy I had that crazy experience.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Im going to save this but it sounds like those aren’t just various strains of mushies? and idk if id go out of my way to obtain drugs i cant cultivate myself. I like the idea of mushrooms and i have spores and stuff, just not motivated to grow a new batch.
Ive seen extracts of mushies, called “crystals of the gods” which is a dumb name but the only extraction method ive found, and thats what I want to try, because its supposed to completely get rid of the body problems associated with it, though not the enhancement of your natural mood (in my case mostly anxiety)
Im kinda afraid of human-made or refined drugs, tbh. What if i like them?
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
If I recall correctly, a lot of the gastric stuff is due to chitin in the cells walls, which humans generally can’t digest. Probably also related to the fact that most people eat them dry. I could be entirely repeating bro science, idk.
People have reported making tea with the mushrooms (unlike THC, psilocybin is water-soluble), or soaking them in lemon juice (idea, I think, is that the acidity breaks up the cell walls a bit more) prior to ingestion helps. Don’t trust me, though, look into these independently if it’s of interest.
TheBluePillock@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve heard of the crystals, but iirc there was some question if they’re really psilocybin. You can extract psilocybin into liquid, though. There’s reduced body load and little to no stomach issues or nausea. The method I used for making it is in one of the books by Virginia Haze and K Mandrake - I think the psilocybin chef cookbook, but not positive.
Basically, you soak the shrooms in everclear to get out as much of the psilocybin as you can, then let the everclear evaporate so you’re left with a tiny amount of very concentrated fluid. Just add 1ml to some juice and you’re on your way. Been a while since I did it and I screwed it up a little, but it was way more mellow than eating the raw shrooms while still being effective. I’ve still got the rest of the little vial I made in the freezer, for whenever I’m stable enough to handle it again.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Nawhhh those are not actually psilocybin, so if you’re only looking for mushies, you’d probably not be as into those! All of the things I mentioned are powders you eat, except 25i which is sold as acid but it tastes bad, is a bad feeling, and can harm or kill (unlike acid)
I don’t blame your apprehension! The things I’ve mentioned are once-per-year or once-ever drugs for me. I will only ever do 5-MeO-DiPT again because my current (forever) partner has never tried it and would like to. None of the things I’ve talked about are addictive, but they are man-made. Mephedrone is the most evil man-made chemical. It’s like ecstasy you sniff and it makes you feel REALLY good, for a little while. And then you can just do more. And there’s no hangover! …until you do it a few times. Then it becomes the most fiendy thing in the world, ever. I’ve tried everything and the only problems were alcohol, Xanax (both were not terrible to quit, just a few days of feeling not great and getting bad sleep.) Meth was fine but didn’t me wanna keep doing it. Opiates were okay but maybe just not for me, they felt cool but the only good type I’ve ever tried was smoking actual opium, that smelled awesome and felt nice.
But Mephedrone… the final time I did it, both nostrils were clogged and bloody and dry and I couldn’t breathe out of them and ALL I COULD DO was look at the white pile in front of us and watch my mates take lil toots and salivate, thinking “oh my god I would do ANYTHING to get more of that into me right now”. It was an all-consuming feeling and thought, encompassing my entire existence. Eating it doesn’t work very well and at that time, I hadn’t plugged anything (put it in my bum) or I would have taken a chunk of it and gone to the bathroom. It was THAT fiendy.
I woke up the next day smelling of cat piss (Mephedrone reeks) and was astonished something could make me feel that way. I vowed never to touch it again—I kept that vow.
That was like 15 years ago or so. If someone was like “I have a gram, wanna snort it” I would 100% say yes absolutely in a microsecond. But now I’m old and wiser and know I can’t just have piles around… the other worst part is how cheap it was. Five, ten USD a gram in bulk, and a gram is a LOT, takes you way further than a gram of coke.
Evil, addictive, fiendy shit. Don’t ever do it. But it’s fucking amazing. (I feel like I’m in that scene from Walk Hard the way I talk about it.)
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Yeah, thats exactly what i want to avoid, things that are good enough that even without being addictive, i want them. I wont even grow poppies for poppy tea because I’m afraid i will become low-grade addicted to it as a result of simply not being in constant pain for a change (fucked up thing to consider, but true as someone with chronic pain). My mom made me promise to keep her oxy after she passed because it was much harder for me to get pain treatment than it should be, but it just made me throw up (same it did to her, but we assumed it was the cancer), so i gave it to a friend who needed it. I know myself and i -really- like escape. It used to be books, as a kid, but now its all sorts of things. Because i can.
Mostly i want things with low addiction (physical or psychological) risk, ideally also somewhat beneficial, and no or very low chance of bad experience, because my brain does that anyway. Also kinda has to be fairly easy to get without a shady middle-man, because i don’t know people and buying shit on tor isn’t appealing to me at all. The hardest thing I’ve done was extacy cut with meth, and i listened to my druggy ex and boofed it (our slang for bum-hole administration, tho i learned later i should have shoved it in my vagina instead, thats way way better for drug absorption due to the sheer quantity of blood vessels and the moist environment, to the point that it used to he a common medical application in hospital). Honestly, i loved it, and would exist that way forever if i could. And thats the problem. I’m glad i don’t have easy access to it now. Id like to use it again in controlled therapy settings, as long as they’ve got some good beats and highlighters on hand. But as a result of using it, techno gives me anxiety now. Used to really love it. So even in mild ways the best of things can fuck with you.
I don’t really struggle with drugs other than alcohol (and thats a weird one because i just fall out of use, same as weed, after months or years of heavy use), but thats mostly because i don’t use anything else particularly addictive because i don’t trust myself. Actually, because i know what I’d do. I seem to fall out of alcohol use when my mental state improves to the point i don’t need a crutch. But until then, its bad. Ngl. And weed just stops being fun periodically, so sometimes i take years-long breaks even though it’s good for my pain.
Im super interested in drugs, though. Like genuinely id love to try them all with no risk. I used to read bluelight just to imagine how it felt. I want VR to work for me because that feels like a mild trip (makes me hella nauseated, so no dice until holodeck exists).
Im glad you’ve come out the other end of it reasonably intact, sounds like :) And thank you for sharing your experiences with me, for my edification :) i genuinely appreciate it. If you want to share more, even about other substances, id be interested in reading it, to live vicariously through you :)