That is not a whataboutism. The claim was “30% is a huge cut for a virtual storefront”. The only way to qualify that comparison is to look at other virtual storefronts for games. If you have other cases of comparison to give apart from Sony, MS, and Nintendo, I’m open to look at them. Epic, so far, is a bit of a standout with its pricing.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Yeah let’s ignore Epic, just because .
And let’s also ignore the kid gambling epidemic created by Valve.
And let’s ignore the fact that you don’t own your steam games, but send death treath to Ubisoft if they say the same.
BTW, Sony, MS and Nintendo all suck, but at least they create jobs for devs.
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Epic made it very clear from the start they were trying to undercut Steam, not by being better, but by paying out developers to create exclusive games for the Epic store, something extremely hated on PC. Even on Steam you can still sell your games elsewhere too.
Steam also controls the larger markets share of PC gaming. Of course they’re going to have to price themselves competitively. Because why would you pay more for a platform that has way less users and a bad reputation?
You can actually just pay an almost 0% cut by delivering directly to your customers, but that’s exactly why you use a storefront to sell your game. You go where the customers are, and they are at Steam.
Let's ask actual developers.
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Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
You’re link doesn’t make any sens. It doesn’t change anything, they all have massive studios with thousand of employees, while steam has sub 300 employees.
BTW I ACTUALLY worked with 3 studios in Montreal over the past 15 years. One had a quite successful game but they had to close anyway because they couldn’t secure funding for the following project. Meanwhile steam made hundreds of thousand of the game.
But I get it, you dont care really about games and devs, you care about convenience. Expect a major enshitification of games because IA shit will soon be the only way to make this industry profitable.
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Unfortunately for your bad faith argument, I make games myself. And this kind of behaviour is absolutely detestable if you ask me. Engaging with people like this is actively doing damage to game developers. You aren’t automatically right for having been part in making a game once.
PC developers don’t work for Steam, they work for themselves or for a publisher. And the same massive studios that make games for consoles make them for PC too. Feel free to provide some actual stats that aren’t just your personal feeling on the topic rather than just saying “nuh-uh” while running off with the goalpost.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 days ago
What does that has to do with anything?
architect@thelemmy.club 3 days ago
People have sent me death threats for not liking the new Star Wars who gives a fuck?! Why do i keep seeing people use “death threats” against a major corporate entity as proof of anything? So fucking what? Oh they got death threats? OH WELCOME TO THE INTERNET?