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over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Oh, you must have misinterpreted my question. You (and apparently others) must have thought I was asking about the train fuel exclusively. I was most decidedly not.

I was asking about the multitude of passenger vehicles blocked by the train across multiple intersections for over half an hour, and only around half of the blocked vehicles bothered to even shut their engine off.

Therefore, parked train blocking traffic to an entire community for over half an hour is burning more fossil fuels than if the train actually parked in a designated parking area (oh wait, that was only about ~300 feet to the right).

It’s not the train burning the fuel, it’s half the cars waiting for the thing to move. Cause and effect yo, cause is train, effect is around a hundred cars, half of which ain’t got common sense to shut their engine off, steady burning gas.

Cause = Parked Train
Effect = Passenger Vehicle Gallons Burned

So the parked train literally causes excess emissions, from the vehicles they block, but the train isn’t at fault?

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dehyzer@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I get you’re pissed that you have to wait for a train sometimes. I get it, it happens to me sometimes too. But do you really think the railroad crossing in your specific Mississippi town is the barometer upon which all transportation efficiency is measured?

Maybe your town and local trains just suck?

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- over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Our trains run to and from New Orleans Louisiana to Mobile Alabama, possibly even further now, major shipping routes to major corporations no less.
  
  So why they gotta decide to park their freight trains right over our main community artery roads for over a half hour at a time, multiple times a week?
  
  Oh, did I mention, they share the same rail with Amtrak passenger trains? At least Amtrak doesn’t park…
  
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MrQuallzin@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Oh I more than understood your question, as much as there was one. I’m taking the piss out of you because your question is more of a rant than anything else.

Move somewhere else if you don’t like it. You live in an industrial area. As do I, where the trains stop traffic multiple times per day since we have lumber yards here. And we all deal with it because we chose to live here.

The fuel costs of having the train do what it does, even though it’s an inconvenience for you, will certainly be substantially less than them catering to you. That’s by my estimation though. If you have data showing otherwise, let’s take a look at it.

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- over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I don’t even live in an industrial area yo, I live by the coast where boating, fishing and food are the big things.
  
  Again, my point is when you got (yes estimated) 100 cars stopped for half an hour, and only half of those cars bother shutting off their engines, well I ain’t about to go knocking on windows to ask people to shut off their vehicles to help the better cause. I ain’t trying to get shot, so half the chucklefucks still run their engines the whole time.
  
  So how much fuel is wasted by passenger vehicles in such circumstances? Sorry I don’t have any exact detailed study for you, but it’s probably not much different than existing studies regarding how much fuel gets wasted at every red light intersection vs a roundabout.
  
  Obviously a roundabout ain’t gonna work for trains, but at the same time the trains don’t need to be parking and blocking traffic multiple times a week…
  
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