Comment on Do YOU consider Kanji difficult?

zlatiah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• ComradeMiao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No duh, it’s literally Chinese

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ?

  Kanji is same as Chinese?

  The only problem to me is more like the “Broken Characters” (aka: katakana/hiragana)

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  • zlatiah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes… Until when you’d have to pronounce it 😭 And then there’s a ridiculous amount of Japanese names that seem to follow no rules whatsoever for their pronunciations. And then there’s online JP users who would put the weirdest pronunciations for Kanjis, sometimes they are so weird that they have to annotate the pronunciation themselves

    … Anyways, Japanese is difficult

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh pronunciation… forgot about that…

      But the meaning is the same, no?

      Then just mentally map a sound to the Chinese version of the sound…

      I already do that for Cantonese and Mandarin lol, remembering Japanese sounds would just be like another “dialect” isn’t it? 🤔

      I mean like if they wrote entire sentences in Kanji and not the hiragana katagana stuff, you can decipher the meaning right?

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      • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The Japanese changed a lot of hanzi to make it easier. The Chinese reaaaally simplified their hanzi to a point that I, as a native Japanese speaker, find it hard to decipher. With traditional Chinese, even with the more complex strokes, I can sorta make sense of signs and even some snippets from a newspaper article.

        Also note that even though each character might have the same-ish meaning across languages, we might use different combinations to describe a word.

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      • zlatiah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For the most part yeah. I think that’s unironically how I “cheated” my old JLPT exams and got way higher grades than I should. And really high-level Japanese (such as political news, debates, legal matter) are mostly Kanji, and by that point you’d fully understand all the non-Kanji parts anyways so

        But in real life you still have to actually say the words out loud…

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