I also am uncertain about the 2nd hand value of electric cars. Don’t know how much battery degradation kills their range…
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47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
On the one hand pushing for net zero is going to cost people a lot of money at a time when nobody can afford it.
But on the other hand it protects the environment which is handy because we’ll all be sleeping in it the way things are going with the economy.
Buying a used car is going to cost more than buying new one after 2030 because most people simply don’t want electric cars.
Rokk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 year ago
There is a lot of FUD paid for by the oil industry on this subject.
BUT in EV circles, you see stories like:
insideevs.com/…/tesla-model-s-passes-1-million-mi…
Generally the battery will out last the rest of the car. The warranty on the battery is normally 8y/100000 and it will absolutely last longer than that.
Batteries that out live their car are already a thing and getting a second life as static power storage. I know if some in homes, but I also know of plans to have them in big banks for grid level backup.
47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I’m not sure if EVs have something similar to iPhones battery monitor so you can the health of the battery. But yeah it’s going to be risky buying a used EV.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 year ago
It’s not that risky, the battery are designed to last in a way iPhone battery aren’t. iPhone batteries if anything are designed to not last!
At the cost saving, maybe the “risk” is worth it. My commute was costing me £16 a day in diesel, now it’s £8 of kWh and as of Friday, when I get the night rate, £2 a day. So yes, my monthly repayments are a bit more than they were on the diesel, but minus the fuel saving of electricity over diesel, it’s substantially less.
snacks@feddit.uk 1 year ago
There’s a difference between wanting an EV and affording one. Most people won’t mind an EV but they are not £5k. What you’ll find is the 2nd hand EV market will also be mature, plus they last hundreds of thousands of miles more than a petrol car ever will. In 2030 they will be cheaper 1st and 2nd hand, so you can pay more for an old petrol if you like. My bet is, the cost will win out and people will just buy an EV.
47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
The car may last longer but the batteries won’t last as long as a petrol or diesel engine.
Batteries degrade every time they go through a cycle and eventually they will barely last long enough to get to the next charger. However a petrol engine will last far longer with proper maintenance.
snacks@feddit.uk 1 year ago
This isn’t the case. However I don’t want to get into a row about it except to say it’s nearly impossible to argue against the myths people make up in their own mind. Peace brother
47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Batteries degrading isn’t a myth my friend.
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Rokk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Every other device I use with a rechargeable battery suffers hugely with degredation. Can you explain why an EV battery would be an exception (cause I would love it to be!).
Surely if its a very common myth that you know to be wrong you should be trying to correct that.
Ogoshi@feddit.uk 1 year ago
If they last longer then surely there won’t be much of a used market for electric cars in 2030?
snacks@feddit.uk 1 year ago
at the moment you can get a decent EV for under £10k. The people buying new and selling on used will still exist, they havnt vanished. ill tell you what will be expensive: Petrol. As demand drops there will be less petrol stations and they wont be able to justify the ludicrous subsidies.
Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Which models should I be looking at for this kind of price?
abrasiveteapot@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
You really think people will stop trading in their cars after 3 years to get the latest model ? I sincerely doubt it. Rolling over the lease is built into the finance model (it’s not financially smart but that’s a different discussion).
Ogoshi@feddit.uk 1 year ago
No I don’t doubt that at all. I just don’t think we’re going to have used car forecourts packed solid with EV’s in 7 years time, let alone them also being affordable to the masses.