Comment on Age checks creep into Linux as systemd gets a DOB field

xyro@morbier.foo ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s weird that this guy is pushing it with “it’s the law” justifications while claiming it’s so ineffective as to be harmless. Why not just do nothing? That would be even more ineffective at collecting users’ dates of birth. He seems oddly eager and strangely confident that all the steps he’s taking to comply preemptively won’t be misused in future.

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  • kogasa@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Can’t speak for this person as I wouldn’t have volunteered to make these changes myself, but it’s possible that he thinks implementing “harmless” versions sooner can provide a legal basis to decline to provide “harmful” versions later.

    I’d personally wait for the legal challenges against non-compliant systems before moving into malicious compliance if necessary.

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    • belazor@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If we accept the premise that certain distros will need to comply with age verification laws (school specific ones, distros running on govt machines), then it would be better if that information was securely stored in the system database rather than relying on each school/government agency reinventing the wheel.

      I will save my ire and save my effort protesting until age verification, not attestation, makes its way into my distro of choice.

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      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If we accept the premise

        Let’s not. They’re doing this backwards. If this were actually for the children, identification happens by the content, with the filters set locally.

        Not BROADCASTING TO THE ENTIRE INTERNET that a child is browsing.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Dylan’s words in the PR:

    After reading the bill text, this is the conclusion I came to - arch install is an OS installer, the law asks for users to provide birth date when installing an OS. Is that going to be hilariously pointless and ineffective? Yes.

    I feel like he’s getting ahead of the work as a matter-of-fact. In other words, the law passed, Arch is used by Californians, they need measures to make sure they’re not breaking the law.

    I don’t think protest even falls into it with these kind of people, even though a majority of us would jump on the chance to actively protest this law and these changes. I personally cannot wait to have this shit throw at me at the next Linux upgrade, just to pull something like Ageless Linux does against it.

    That’s why I was vehemently opposed to the hit piece that was attacking this guy personally, by a shit blogger who I will forever blacklist. Also, fuck the mod who submitted that hit piece to Lemmy.

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