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I think you are making my point for me. Violent revolutions are often if not usually hijacked and perverted by violent parties to achieve their own ends, which almost never line up with the needs of the actual citizens of the territory.

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Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I have no idea how showing a bunch of peaceful movements that got slaughtered “makes your point for you.”

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- realitista@lemmus.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It looks to me like you are listing violent revolutions.
  
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  - Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    “Violent revolutions” like when Mossadegh was democratically elected? Or Jacobo Árbenz, again, being democratically elected?
    
    You are making my point for me. Westerners are so ignorant of the histories of these countries that it doesn’t matter how peaceful they are. You’ll just assume that they’re violent based on nothing. How are you supposed to win public support when the public doesn’t know you exist, and doesn’t care if you live or die?
    
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    realitista@lemmus.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    You were talking about the CIA overthrows. All violent revolutions. Including the 2 you list.
    
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