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• W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah, I’m guessing you’re American, and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right? The democrats are actually center-right, they’re all about capitalism and protecting the interests of the ruling class.

    The true left vs. right dichotomy actually IS the class war. The working class of the left is fighting against the ruling class, and the working class on the right is unfortunately blinded by propaganda and brainwashing into supporting the interests of the ruling class.

    Leftists in the United States historically haven’t been represented by mainstream politics exactly for that reason, and there has been centuries of anti-leftist propaganda in the US, that’s because leftists actually pose a threat to the establishment.

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    • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      he democrats are actually center-right,

      You’re giving muricans aneurysms with that sentence.
      What’s next? Bernie’s center-left at best?

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yep, democratic socialism is ultimately a reformist position, which serves to extend the reign of capitalism by moderating it’s worse excesses. Capitalism cannot be reformed, any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism. The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough.

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    • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, I’m guessing you’re American,

      Yep

      and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right?

      Nope.

      You know what they say about assumptions. It’s makes and ass outta you.

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Okay, so help me to understand, I asked already and you just shared a meme, it’s kind of unfair to complain about me assuming even after I asked for clarifications :(

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• gurty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I understand what you mean - I’m an anarchist too. Anarchism is a far-left position, though, you realize?

    The democrats / mainstream liberals in western countries absolutely do often make the mistake of accepting the right wing’s framing and arguing with them on their terms, but actual leftists are the force who try to refocus that energy back onto the class struggle.

    Don’t mistake democrats/liberals for actual leftists. Most of them are still very much pro-capitalism.

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    • gurty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I understand what you’re saying, and you’re right that authoritarian leftists are a big threat, as we saw with the USSR and China, but I gotta say, it feels quite unhelpful to say that both sides are being played - it’s quite a defeatist position and discourages people from moving away from the right, centrism and liberalism, towards more leftist positions. Social democrats/democratic socialists are a problem too, but they have no traction, whereas the far-right has a lot of traction. We need to meet people where they are and help them reach the next step on the ladder of class consciousness. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t go from being conservative to anarchist overnight, it was a long and painful journey.

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