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Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Killing animals for taste pleasure is morally wrong, weather it happens in a factory farm or on that mythical uncles farm that tottaly loves and pets his animals to death.

And yes, it’s ok to kill plants because they do not feel pain. They can’t feel pain because they lack a nervous system to do so as well as an evolutionary reason for pain to exist.

And even if plants feel pain, it takes MUCH more plants to feed animals to then feed humans.

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hans@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

it takes MUCH more plants to feed animals to then feed humans.

most of the plants fed to animals are parts of plants we can’t or won’t eat. a great example is soy: we run over 4/5 of the global crop through an oil press and extract what we want, and feed the leftover plant matter to animals. no more plants are harmed in this process, and we conserve resources by getting food back from the animals.

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AlexLost@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It isn’t morally wrong, it goes against your morals maybe, but that doesn’t make it wrong. We are allowed to disagree and you are free to choose the diet you prefer, as are the rest of us.

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- Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Nah, it’s morally wrong and if you were honest you would actually agree. Let me explain:
  
  Let’s set a moral baseline that we both agree with. Shooting a random person that has done no harm to anyone in the head without their explicit consent is morally bad, yes?
  
  Now, what is different about, say, a pig that makes it less than morally bad to kill the pig? If we then apply that difference to that random human again, is it now less than morally bad to kill them?
  
  The honest answer (and one that I can at least accept) is: there is no such difference.
  
  What is your answer?
  
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  - AlexLost@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    The pig is food. I will eat the pig. I won’t eat the human. The pig isn’t indiscriminately murdered, it is slaughtered for food. We as a society still think it is morally right to kill someone convicted of a crime in some places. While I don’t agree with that, those states do. If morals can be grey, it’s because they are. Morality is a human construct. What’s moral today can be immoral tomorrow.
    
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    Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    So if someone declares you food, is it now moral for them to slit your throat and butcher you?
    
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    hans@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    the “name the trait” argument is so well known vegans just call it “ntt”. they’re not here in good faith; they think they have a gotcha.
    
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hans@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

And yes, it’s ok to kill plants because they do not feel pain

you can’t prove this

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