Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"

• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s factory farming because at this point if it weren’t for raising animals for slaughter, we would have hunted pretty much everything to extinction. Vegan might be less harmful (aside that we evolved to eat meat and a vegan diet is hard to get right) but it isn’t without death. All those plants kill loads of insects and field mice and birds and rabbits. Everyone still gets a bit of blood on their hands.

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  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    All those plants kill loads of insects and field mice and birds and rabbits

    Eating plants directly significantly reduces the deaths of insects and other wildlife caused by agriculture. It takes a lot of plants to produce meat.

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    • goedel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      the meat industry hasn’t shrunk because of the existence of vegetarians. no deaths have been reduced at all.

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  • PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    A vegan diet is not hard to get right. Not at all. The only hard part is that most people are not vegan.

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What one of the annoying things about vegans trying to convert others into their diets is claiming it “isn’t that hard”. I don’t know if y’all are trying to gaslight other people, or gaslight yourselves. Vegetarian is “not that hard”. Vegan is troublesome, more expensive, and much harder to get all the B12 and calcium and iron and fatty acids etc that you need to stay fit and healthy. It’s a pain in the ass to avoid anything from animals and get everything you you need that humans evolved to obtain from animals.

      Meanwhile, a regular 3 topping slice of pizza contains every single thing the body needs. As an omnivore you’ll get it all on accident. A vegetarian will get it all with a touch of effort.

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      • PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Speaking from experience, change in diet is not that difficult, including all the stuff you need for a healthy life. Lots of studies even indicate that a vegan diet is generally more healthy than eating meat & dairy. Other than that, vegans can hardly do anything right, so that’s a given. If they don’t speak up nobody hears the (valid) arguments and animals keep getting slaughtered and otherwise mistreated. When they do speak up they are denounced for speaking their mind, no matter what the counter argument would be, if present at all. Being on a platform that is built for communication, I thought it valid to post what I posted, so there you go.

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