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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So bi and pan people don’t fuck and make babies?

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That would imply at least 30% is bi/pan.

    And even at 80%, early humans already had it really rough. There seems to have been 2 near extinctions of modern humans in the far past, so when the population is about 1000, having 200 not contribute is pretty big. Especially with the higher mortality rates early humans had in regards to birth.

    It’s more likely the percentage started extremely low and increased over time as population stability increased, since then it would reach a point where 10-20% not having kids wouldn’t be as big a deal since there would now be hundreds of thousands or even over a million.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Honestly it’s weird how adamant people are there have always been people who solely preferred one sex over the other. While it’s generally true for modern society, people wouldn’t have even understood what you mean in ancient times by “sexual orientation”, really. I mean you could obviously explain it and people could answer to a degree, but…

      Well, think of this, we have left and right in our languages. We all know those are relative terms. My left and your left are different, most of the time. Anyway, there exists a tribe who don’t have relative words for directions, and they only use cardinal directions, all the time. As in if they’re hanging a painting, they’d say “no, no, a bit to the north” instead of “left”. On a tangent, it makes them very much immune to getting lost as they have incredible sense of direction for that reason. My point being that to us it’s simple that you just use left and right, why wouldn’t you, when people know what it means and it’s simple. So why doesn’t that tribe use them? Idk, it’s just not in their culture. Just like such strict classifications of sexual orientation weren’t much of a thing in ancient and prehistoric times.

      Bill And The Romans Talk About Sexuality | The Eaters Of Light | Doctor Who

      Cornelius: Yeah, don’t worry, Bill, Lucius will look after you.

      Lucius: Shut up, Cornelius!

      Bill: Ahh, Lucius, erm, right, listen there’s, erm, something I should explain.

      Lucius: What?

      Bill: This is probably just a really difficult idea. I don’t like men that way.

      Lucius: What? Not ever?

      Bill: Nah, not ever. Only women.

      Nah…not ever.

      Lucius: Oh. Alright, yeah, I’ve got it. You’re like Vitus then.

      Bill: What?

      Lucius: He only likes men.

      Vitus: Some men. Better looking men than you, Lucius.

      Lucius: I don’t think it’s narrow-minded, I think it’s fine. You know what you like.

      Bill: And you like both?

      Lucius: I’m just ordinary, I like men and women.

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