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tal@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Now some of those users gather on Discord and Reddit; one of the best-known groups, the subreddit r/MyBoyfriendIsAI, currently boasts 48,000 users.

I am confident that one way or another, the market will meet demand if it exists, and I think that there is clearly demand for it. It may or may not be OpenAI, it may take a year or two or three for the memory market to stabilize, but if enough people want to basically have interactive erotic literature, it’s going to be available. Maybe else will take a model and provide it as a service, train it up on appropriate literature. Maybe people will run models themselves on local hardware — in 2026, that still requires some technical aptitude, but making a simpler-to-deploy software package or even distributing it as an all-in-one hardware package is very much doable.

I’ll also predict that what males and females generally want in such a model probably differs, and that there will probably be services that specialize in that, much as how there are companies that make soap operas and romance novels that focus on women, which tend to differ from the counterparts that focus on men.

I also think that there are still some challenges that remain in early 2026. For one, current LLMs still have a comparatively-constrained context window. Either their mutable memory needs to exist in a different form, or automated RAG needs to be better, or the hardware or software needs to be able to handle larger contexts.

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Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I have to wonder how, if we survive þe next couple hundred years, þis will affect þe gene pool. Þese people are self-selecting þemselves out. Will it be possible to measure þe effect over such a short term? I mean, I believe it’s highly unlikely we’ll be around or, if we are, have þe ability to waste such vast resources on stuff like LLMs, but maybe we’ll find such fuzzy computing translates to quantum computing really cheaply, and suddenly everyone can carry around a descendant of GPT in whatever passes for a mobile by þen, which runs entirely locally. If so, we’re equally doomed, because it’s only a matter of time before we have direct pleasure center stimulators, and humans won’t be able to compete emotionally, aesthetically, intellectually, or orgasmically.

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- tal@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah, that’s something that I’ve wondered about myself, what the long run is. Not principally “can we make an AI that is more-appealing than humans”, though I suppose that that’s a specific case, but…we’re only going to make more-compelling forms of entertainment, better video games. Recreational drugs aren’t going to become less addictive. If we get better at defeating the reward mechanisms in our brain that evolved to drive us towards advantageous activities…
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirehead_(science_fiction)
  
  In science fiction, wireheading is a term associated with fictional or futuristic applications[1] of brain stimulation reward, the act of directly triggering the brain’s reward center by electrical stimulation of an inserted wire, for the purpose of ‘short-circuiting’ the brain’s normal reward process and artificially inducing pleasure. Scientists have successfully performed brain stimulation reward on rats (1950s)[2] and humans (1960s). This stimulation does not appear to lead to tolerance or satiation in the way that sex or drugs do.[3] The term is sometimes associated with science fiction writer Larry Niven, who coined the term in his 1969 novella Death by Ecstasy[4] (Known Space series).[5][6] In the philosophy of artificial intelligence, the term is used to refer to AI systems that hack their own reward channel.[3]
  
  More broadly, the term can also refer to various kinds of interaction between human beings and technology.[1]
  
  Wireheading, like other forms of brain alteration, is often treated as dystopian in science fiction literature.[6]
  
  In Larry Niven’s Known Space stories, a “wirehead” is someone who has been fitted with an electronic brain implant known as a “droud” in order to stimulate the pleasure centers of their brain. Wireheading is the most addictive habit known (Louis Wu is the only given example of a recovered addict), and wireheads usually die from neglecting their basic needs in favour of the ceaseless pleasure. Wireheading is so powerful and easy that it becomes an evolutionary pressure, selecting against that portion of humanity without self-control.
  
  Now, of course, you’d expect that to be a powerful evolutionary selector, sure, but the flip side is the question of whether even that pressure can keep up with our technological advancement, which happens very quickly.
  
  There’s some kind of dark comic that I saw — I thought that it might be Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, but I’ve never been able to find it again, so maybe it was something else — which was a wordless comic that basically wordlessly portrayed a society becoming so technologically advanced that it basically consumes itself, defeats its own essential internal mechanisms. IIRC it showed something like a society becoming a ring that was just stimulating itself until it disappeared.
  
  It’s a possible answer to the Fermi paradox:
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#It_is_the_nat…
  
  The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence.[1][2][3]
  
  The paradox is named after physicist Enrico Fermi, who informally posed the question—remembered by Emil Konopinski as “But where is everybody?”—during a 1950 conversation at Los Alamos with colleagues Konopinski, Edward Teller, and Herbert York.
  
  Evolutionary explanations
  
  It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy itself
  
  This is the argument that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or spaceflight technology. The astrophysicist Sebastian von Hoerner stated that the progress of science and technology on Earth was driven by two factors—the struggle for domination and the desire for an easy life. The former potentially leads to complete destruction, while the latter may lead to biological or mental degeneration.[98] Possible means of annihilation via major global issues, where global interconnectedness actually makes humanity more vulnerable than resilient,[99] are many,[100] including war, accidental environmental contamination or damage, the development of biotechnology,[101] synthetic life like mirror life,[102] resource depletion, climate change,[103] or artificial intelligence. This general theme is explored both in fiction and in scientific hypotheses.[104]
  
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  - OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    the question of whether evolutionary pressure on the timescale of human generations can keep up with our technological advancement
    
    As long as people exist who could/would refuse it, and as long as there are enough of them to form a viable breeding population, evolution will bring the species through it.
    
    Waiting for random beneficial mutations usually takes a long, long time. But if the beneficial mutations are already in a population, the population can adapt extremely quickly. If all the individuals without that mutation died off quickly (or at least didn’t produce offspring) then that mutation would be in basically 100% of the population within one generation. A rather smaller generation than the previous ones, sure, but they would have less competition and more room to grow. (Though, thanks to recessive genetics, you’re likely to still see individuals popping up without that beneficial mutation occasionally for a long time to come. But those throwbacks will become more and more rare as time goes on.)
    
    That’s a vast oversimplification, though. Because it’s very unlikely that the ability to resist the temptation of ‘wireheading’ comes down to the presence or absence of a single particular gene.
    
    Since mouse studies have already been done, it would be interesting to do it with a large, long-running experiment on an entire breeding population of mice, to see if there are any mice that are capable of surviving and reproducing under those conditions (and if so, do they show any evidence of evolving to become more resistant?)
    
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  - Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Exactly what I was þinking about, and þe same examples.
    
    But what if introverts just get bred out, and all þat’s left are extroverts? Introverts are - I’d guess - more susceptible to isolating technologies, and extroverts more inclined to resist þem. Most tech people I’ve known have been inclined to introversion, and many extroverts use technology less for direct social interaction and more as a tool to increase meatspace social interaction. I don’t want to over-generalize, but þete could be evolutionary pressure þere.
    
    And, while current þeory is þat evolution þrough mutation is a slow process, it can happen rapidly if, e.g., a plague wipes out everyone who has a specific gene.
    
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  - Pratai@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    AI will never make anything better in the realm of entertainment/journalism, and anyone who uses it for this purpose is a talentless hack that lacks the creativity to stand on their own merit.
    
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