You might need something to happen in the PC world for this to happen. Right now you are looking at about 5 to 6x the purchase price for a PC vs a console. Not saying I disagree with the sentiment, I get it. But I’m also sick of Nvidia and AMD who are also pretty gross.
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Manapany@jlai.lu 4 days ago
I’m an Xbox owner since forever. Next generation (and sooner if I can) I’m out, PC and linux will be my new home. Sick of Microsoft and big corporate companies.
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
If the goal is to build a PC that’s the same performance level as the console in question, even with current ridiculously inflated prices it isn’t nearly that expensive.
PS5 Pro ($699) is an 8-core AMD Zen 2 with 16Gb of RAM (shared with the GPU), a 2TB SSD, and a GPU roughly in line with an RX 9060 XT or RTX 5060TI. Late last year, building a matching PC would have been somewhere in the $1-1.2k range. Today it’s few hundred more due to the RAM shortage.
It’s when you actually want to outperform consoles and push the graphics settings far beyond the optimizations and targets of console games when things start to get expensive fast.
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
You aren’t getting a processor, graphics card, a motherboard, case and that ram for $699 right now, though. That’s my point. It’s more than double the cost, if not maybe even triple right now. Do you actually get double or triple the value then? Touche on the steam savings (you could even argue pirating - not condoning but just saying it’s an option, to get those savings), but are you going to actually close the gap? PC games tend to be more demanding too, plus as a PC gamer I often find games need a lot more time for optimization and need tinkering, whereas with a console they just sort of work. There’s pros and cons to each for sure, but I’m of the opinion that right now I’m more heavily on the side of the console, at least from a $ value perspective.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Yes. But you claimed “about 5 to 6x the purchase price for a PC vs a console”. Which isn’t double or triple. And neither did I claim that you could build a PC at the same cost, I said 1-1.2k plus a few hundred more. Which is around double.
I don’t think you’ve realistically ever been able to build a matching PC at the same price, because they are almost always sold at cost or sometimes at a loss as the manufacturer gets their profit selling games, not the hardware. Same deal why VR hardware from Meta is so much cheaper compared to everyone else - because you need to then buy your games from Meta as well.
Manapany@jlai.lu 3 days ago
Yeah you are right but I’m not in a hurry, I already have a mini pc for testing, I have good portable pc for gaming (even if I prefer to play on console) that I can start to switch to linux when I will feel comfortable to do so. I’m financially in a good situation, I can save some money for later and keep my Xbox for now (and see what happens with steam machines this year)
ItsMyVault101@piefed.social 4 days ago
It’s long du for people to realize this, the whole, “pay a monthly subscription to play with your friends” shtick was to begin with and still is the biggest scam ever existed, but somehow everyone just endured it.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I mean, when you could convert Xbox Live Gold credits to Gamepass and get it for like $60 a year, it was genuinely a great deal. And that lasted for like 4+ years.
loreng@beehaw.org 2 days ago
I don’t think that changes the fact that the correct amount to charge for general access to online games is $0. It doesn’t really matter how much you bundle with it, it’s still a scam to charge for it.
ItsMyVault101@piefed.social 3 days ago
It sounds like a seasons pass for hardware.
In my opinion it was still wrong, I mean you pay for your internet provider so you can download the games, which you only are able to play offline, but to play them online you add a subscription on top. This does not sound like a good deal to me at all, not for this sole reason at least, playing online or with your friend should have never been pay walled.
The day one games and every month a selection to play games for free is the deal sealer and I am with you, with this on top it was a great deal.
GammaGames@beehaw.org 2 days ago
When you’re only paying once a year it’s a lot easier to forget about