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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I quite literally teach and consult on Teams, and have for 8 years now. I worked with Lync, Skype for Business, and Communicator before that.

People complain about it all the time, and yet… I’ve never had any significant issues with it.

Other than M365 outages, which impact everyone, I’ve never seen it crash. I’ve never had issues not loading. I’ve never had sound or sharing issues that couldn’t be resolved by clicking the dropdown and selecting the correct option.

It can be a bit slow, especially loading file related stuff, but it’s not any worse than a network drive.

Placeholder avatars in different parts of the App? Teams doesn’t even support task assignment, tasks are handled in MS Planner which is an entirely different product that just happens to be visible inside Teams if you want.

Touch? Mac? Airpods? What the fuck are you doing? You aren’t doing real business tasks if you’re using an iPad.

Maybe the people with problems are the ones running 10 year old hardware with a barely supported operating system?

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Pechente@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Touch? Mac? Airpods? What the fuck are you doing? You aren’t doing real business tasks if you’re using an iPad.

I’m using it on the phone sometimes to reply to people which I don’t think is a weird use case. The AirPods issue happens on macOS and I’m not sure if you’re just ignorant but lots of businesses operate on macOS, especially in my industry (ui design, frontend web dev) it’s unusual to even see Windows.

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- BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  “lots of businesses operate on macOS”
  
  No, they definitely do not. If you go into any business in Canada or the US with more than 200 employees, they are running windows on the computers sitting in front of every office drone they have.
  
  Very specific industries or business may, especially those who are stuck on Adobe’s software, but “lots” is extremely far from the truth.
  
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  - howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    go into any business in Canada or the US with more than 200 employees
    
    That’s like, 2% of businesses in Canada. Even if they all use Windows, it doesn’t prove the point that few businesses use MacOS.
    
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    BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Total number of businesses maybe, but they account for something like two thirds of all employees.
    
    You can’t really say it’s much of a business IT stack if it’s just a single freelancer using a Mac.
    
    They wouldn’t be setting up teams in the first place.
    
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XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Teams doesn’t even support task assignment, tasks are handled in Ms Planner which is an entirely different product that just happens to be visible inside of Teams if you want

Do you really not see how Ms has pushed Teams to be a fucking awful imaginary OS box? They’re just tasks (Planner in a trench coat), it’s just a calendar (ripped from outlook), they’re just files (the worst way to access SharePoint), it’s just one drive (in the worst interface), they’re just notifications (triplicates of what outlook and windows already told me).

touch? Mac? Airpods? What the fuck are you doing? You aren’t doing real business if you’re using an ipad

Oh, honey. Not every job is performed by being fisted with code and network protocol. Businesses run on inappropriate excel databases and you know it. You know the number of local programs is dwindling by the second as each software dev moves to “access from anywhere” and “remove the burden of server management” as they slide down an icy hill towards putting everything in a cloud based Web interface. Either that, or you’re middle management that thinks you need asses in visible chairs to get work done.

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- BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t see your argument against teams.
  
  It sounds like:
  
  “It’s all together in one place, how dare they.”
  
  At this point I don’t even bother using the desktop version of outlook, the web app is easier for emails and my calendar is in teams.
  
  You act like cloud services are bad, they aren’t. If they were terrible, people would be switching away from them. They’re adding value beyond their cost and everyone knows it.
  
  Could Microsoft be better at some things? Sure.
  
  But they’re already far better than the alternative, which is a janky ass system of 30 different products from 30 different vendors.
  
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