At least it’s now a good indicator of what kind of man you’re dealing with. Just ask him what he thinks of Till Lindemann.
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Aequitas@feddit.org 2 days agoYes, and that’s why he posted a photo with Boateng, another male perpetrator of violence against women, to portray himself as a poor victim of media coverage.
The man created a system in which young women were specifically targeted (affectionately referred to as the “slut parade” by the band and staff), taken to an isolated room with others, where their cell phones were taken away, where drugs were available, and where they had to ask security guards to let them out.
There are also anonymous reports from people who contacted journalists but, at the latest after Linnemann’s major legal offensive against other victims, no longer dared to file official charges or even venture into the public eye in any way. Others have backtracked because German law requires such things to be proven beyond a doubt, otherwise you make yourself liable to prosecution. However, this is almost impossible, especially in sexual criminal law. Lindemann’s lawyers would have done anything to destroy these people.
Another reason, of course, is the countless people who want to defend their idol at all costs. They are just as depraved as all the Trump fans who still cover for him despite all the reports of rape. Disgusting.
I don’t need a court ruling to form an opinion. German law is a joke in this area anyway. Even what is known for certain is enough for me to identify him as a disgusting person. And I am very sure that we don’t know everything. Stop defending him. Stop protecting perpetrators.
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Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I’m not fanatically defending or accusing anyone based on my feelings, I’m trying to be objective and rational.
This mob mentality “everyone not agreeing with my view is disgusting and a fanatic idoliser” argument isn’t helping your case.
Arguably, you don’t want camera phones near an artist doing illegal drugs. You don’t need to be a rapist to find that logical.
That said, I don’t tend to follow “celebrity news” and definitely not German football, so I wasn’t aware of his friendship with Boateng (up to 10min ago). Having read the cliff notes, his choice in friends does say something about Lindemann’s character.
I hope you are wrong simply because that means those women weren’t violated. But honestly, the firing of Makeeva sadly indicates she did spike those women to provide to Lindemann’s parties. How much he was involved, I don’t know. It wouldn’t be the first time an entourage does shitty things to keep the golden-egg-laying artist happy without their knowledge. That’s unfortunately too common to exclude it at this point, although I wouldn’t advice anyone to rely on it being the case.
But if you wonna convince people he’s a rapist, maybe try presenting evidence first, rather than just ordering people what to do. People tend to be more accepting of a conclusion they made themselves.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
This is unhinged lmao. If you don’t want people to take pictures/videos of you doing illegal drugs backstage, there are at least two way more logical options that also have the benefit of not violating a person’s rights:
Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I think it was more about inviting them to do drugs with him than to watch, and you wouldn’t want any selfies of that going on instagram.
Yes, obviously doing drugs around strangers is a bad idea. But if you truly insist on inviting strangers to do drugs with you, asking them to not bring any cameras in the room seems like a good move PR-wise.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
And you see how that makes it seem like you’re defending that behavior right? By sane-washing it? By making it seem like an appropriate “solution” instead of the bad behavior it is?