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powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoI responded “Why do you care so much?” to a user that started out engaging in bad faith by asking that question to start. I was simply mirroring their bad faith argument back to them. Elsewhere in the thread where they had an actual comment, I responded in good faith. I’m not going to waste my time on nonsense.
It’s easy to say “it’s pointless to talk to you”. Other people have said that too, or “I’m just so tired” or “You’re boring”. I’ll gladly talk about Khelif, but first:
Do you understand what sex determination is and how it differs from how sex is defined?
Let’s get facts straight first.
MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
They did respond with longer comments later, but you only spammed this (This was @oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com)
You also spammed comments back and forth with Log in | Sign up @davidagain@lemmy.world. Nobody forced you to make those comments.
I’m also not of the opinion that you commented elsewhere in “good faith.”
Now what is your answer to the question:
What is Imane Khelif’s gender and sex?
And before you ask again: I have read that you categorize sex determination in humans entirely based on gametes, and that you also binarily categorize the many edge cases/exceptions (you know what one interperation of this meme is about) as “organized around producing a type of gamete”. Now please answer the question. I would be interested to read your answer.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
If you can acknowledge that it’s not me categorizing anything, but that I’m merely relaying how the field of biology defines sex, then sure. I make no claim other than referring to many sources saying exactly that.
The entire thread that started with “Why do you care so much?” was eminently silly and I didn’t bother responding with effort, but that user engaged in other subthreads, where I did respond.
The other user is unhinged, to be honest. Like, something is wrong with them. I engaged in good faith a few times, but in the end they refused to acknowledge a basic fact and it wasn’t worth engaging with effort.
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
“Why do you care so much?” is a reasonable question, given that you are obsessed with this topic and on a mission to correct others with what you believe to be “facts”.
It is a reasonable question given that your choice of “facts” aligns well with denying that trans people exist. The existence of trans people is an empirical fact you don’t seem to be interested in acknowledging.
You “merely relaying how the field of biology defines sex” is disingenuous because your position on the whole matter is not inquisitive (in search of understanding) but authoritarian (telling others how to be).
That’s why you will be called out on it repeatedly, because you are not telling the truth about your motives and try to pass yourself off as neutral and scientific.
So I ask you again: Why do you care so much?
The answer is pretty clear - you don’t acknowledge that you yourself are trans, because you haven’t developed the self-reflection skills to be honest with yourself about it yet. Instead you cling to biology text books, while telling trans people that they don’t exist.
But we know your type very well - dishonest, mean-spirited denialists with no personal integrity.
Your power struggle is with yourself.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Wisdom.
MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Now, where’s your answer to the questions I asked in my very first comment?
What is Imane Khelif’s gender and sex?
We are now really deep in the comment chain, but you still haven’t answered.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Khelif identifies as a woman, and was determined to be male by sex testing. Khelif likely has the same condition as Caster Semenya (5αR2D), which often results in being incorrectly assigned female at birth due to ambiguous genitalia.
Khelif is male due to producing sperm, which is why I wanted to clarify how biologists define sex. It isn’t based on chromosomes, testosterone, or anything other than gametes (slightly longer put, the gamete type one’s body is organized around producing).
If you want to discuss the accuracy of the sex testing done that’s fine too, but for the sake of answering your question I didn’t go into that.
So gender is female and sex is male.