Comment on Peak Muslim body defends radical Islamist group as Labor pushes hate speech laws
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 day agoTolerance and freedom of speech is an agreement. Every party must agree and abide by the principles for it to work.
When one group no longer wants to be tolerant or recognise freedoms for all then they opt out of the protections.
People or groups who break these laws will be prosecuted.
Part of the protection of these freedoms is responsibility, is not lying, is accountability. People and groups must be prepared to back up everything they assert with verifiable facts.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 15 hours ago
I think their point is from what they’ve seen so far, these laws are open and likely to be applied unevenly and arbitrarily against groups that ministers and governments of the day don’t like. Tony Burke has already said as much. Their response is much in line with the assessment of the laws that Matt Canavan had on the radio this morning.
Jail time and criminality for hate speech is a very large increase in consequences for sonething ‘deemed’ as hate speech. We currently have civil remedies for hate speech, so people can be and are held to account now.
So its calling into question whether tolerance and freedom of speech for all is going to be upheld and extended with these laws, or whether the laws introduce an inequity based on the Minister responsible’s whims and biases.
The propsed penalties for hate speech of a decade or so in prison is such life altering criminal penalties the Minister responsible has available that in future could arbitrarily use these laws to harass and destroy the lives of people they disagree with.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 12 hours ago
That doesn’t seem to be the case as the minister has pointed out, Nazi’s and Islamic State running around doesn’t exactly inspire confidence the laws are working as intended.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
In that section I’m drawing a comparison to where the laws have been drawn, and where the laws are proposed to be drawn. Trying to show that these laws are a heavy increase to what exists, and questioning whether that is the appropriate extent to go to.
Although, i want to say, I haven’t actually read the legislation on this, and i did hear something about a 2 year assessment period. So I don’t want to claim these laws are definitely going too far. But I do want to draw attention to the fact that unintended people and groups can get caught by laws that were designed for others.