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Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
There’s these “ontological arguments”, which are basically folks trying to prove the existence of a god by reasoning with pure logic, so without relying on evidence. And they all sound like that. 🫠
One of the classics goes roughly like this:
- There is good and bad. (Which is one hell of an axiom.)
- A creature can exist which unifies all good properties. (Yet another hell of an axiom.)
- Because this creature has all these good properties, it would be even gooder, if it did exist.
- Since this creature unifies all good properties and its existence is itself a good property, it therefore must exist.
These arguments are also always funny, because the same logic can be used to “prove” all kinds of things. For example, a perfect island can exist, therefore it must exist. 🙃
As far as I can tell, the arguments don’t actually get better over time either, but rather just more convoluted, to make it less obvious how silly they are…
MotoAsh@piefed.social 6 days ago
I usually heard the BS from a creationist perspective.
The universe cannot exist without a creator … which is also a hell of an assumption to turn into an axiom.
and people say religion doesn’t harm people… It obliterates their ability to logic.