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wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day agoI still value democracy, while recognizing that the US is a shitshow right now. The americans who support democracy are not in favor of what’s going on right now.
Throwing out democracy because it’s being destroyed by a fascist in america is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Democracy is the baby. It’s fragile and helpless on it’s own, and requires attention and active participation from adults in order to be nurtured and grow. Fascism is the pile of dog shit the baby got into when the adults left the room. The baby just needs a bath.
hector@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I just had someone make one of those arguments. Because the west has liberal democracies, and they do a bunch of bullshit with israel, therefore liberal democracies are the problem, and seeing them fall to fascists, the same fascists doing the most of those things justifying their criticisms, is a good thing to them.
It fails reason but what argument doesn’t nowadays, just stupid tankie shit, they just want to make cheap points not help anyone.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Tankies are so exhausting to deal with. In my view, they’re as bad as maga. The two really seem to feed off each other.
hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
The entire spirit of bickering about everything on the internet as if making some point or dunking on someone actually has some meaningful social value is exhausting regardless of the particular viewpoint being espoused. Like, yeah, if it’s dirt stupid and inherently destructive it’s worse, but I see the same sort of behavior from all sorts of different perspectives and none of it is good.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
It’s almost impossible to have a good faith, rational debate on the internet. Logical validity and soundness go out the window the moment someone has to examine their biases and check whether their assumptions have been accurate.