pretty sure Waymo is cool with not taking safety seriously over profits though
Comment on no eggs were harmed in the making of this video
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 days agoThe US has the NHTSA (at least, for now), which doesn’t stand for shenanigans like this. And the two market leaders in autonomous vehicles (Waymo, Zoox) actually take safety seriously, unlike others (Tesla, RIP Cruise).
massacre@lemmy.world 1 day ago
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We already accept 3,400 deaths per day from human drivers.
If autonomous vehicles were to cause one death ever, would they still not be worth pursuing?
massacre@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I never said that, nor implied it. I certainly personally think it’s worth pursuit. I was pointing out Waymo was being given a bit of a pass there, and want to remind folks that profit incidentive that ignores or downplays human risk is not at all appealing and shouldn’t be given a free pass.
If Waymo can drive and “only” kills 1% of the equivalent per human miles driven, it’s certainly better right? But given that it’s a machine with a company that has a profit motive behind it, it’s goals need to be lofty. Why not set the bar at zero human deaths as a goal post and work from there? As soon as you say a single death is acceptable, it changes how everyone approaches it and turns into “well, is a second death acceptable?” and that’s going to quickly devolve into “what is an acceptable level of death for our profit margin.” To be clear, I’m arguing the answer should always be NONE. The alternative is a slippery slope, so I don’t want to give anyone a pass.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The goal is zero, at least stated by some of their competitors. People are just getting bent out of shape when faced with the reality that, inevitably, it’ll happen. Due to people being dumb and panicky and terwsistant to change, every implementation needs to demonstrate orders of magnitude more safety than human drivers in order to gain acceptance. This is why rogue companies like Tesla, and compilations of trash like this post, are making the industry look bad.
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
taking a ride from RIP Cruise sounds like a fanfuckingtastic way to die
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
They didn’t kill the woman, just ran her over and dragged her twenty feet, a mercifully short distance given that the vehicle never detected her and was already about to pull over.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Well, it’s likely the DOGE cuts haven’t shown their impact just yet.
Personally, I’m sort of hoping for the same karma as when Elaine Chao was secretary of transportation and let Tesla roll out an untested and confusing shifting system, which later helped kill her sister.