It seems that you can’t invoke your rights pre-Miranda and before arrest, as seen in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salinas_v._Texas
I don’t know how that works specifically, but I expect nobody will allow you more your rights whenever they can
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TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 1 week agoThis is not entirely accurate.
If you clam up pre-Miranda warning, it can be used against you (if you didn’t specifically exercise your rights).
Case law about this: supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/570/178/
Post-Miranda warning, there’s no issue. The warning literally advises you of your right to be silent.
sukhmel@programming.dev 5 days ago
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
That’s not entirely accurate:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghuis_v._Thompkins
Your fifth amendment rights haven’t been invoked until you say so. The Miranda warning isn’t a guide for how to invoke the rights, just a notification that you have them.
Now, it’s ridiculous that we’ve ended up here and it was a terrible ruling, both of them, but if you’re just quiet you haven’t invoked your right to silence anymore than you’ve invoked your right to legal counsel.
Which is a hell of a position for the court to take on coerced confessions.