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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Immune here means you have an immune response. I’m pretty sure the word here is “carrier”

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  • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    • this is a shitpost community, not a biotech publication, so immune here means the dictionary definition, not any domain-specific technical jargon, otherwise people can’t make shitposts about diplomatic immunity
    • lacking the receptor that HIV uses to hijack the regular immune response in order to reproduce means the regular immune response destroys it
    • even in a normal person, after exposure, a lot of HIV gets destroyed by other parts of the immune system, often enough to eliminate it before an infection gains a foothold. Once an infection takes hold, it outbreeds the immune response as it’s the part best equipped to deal with a large viral load that it interferes with.
    • if you’ve got the virus in your body, but due to the lack of the receptor, it can’t reproduce, then it doesn’t remain viable for very long as each viron accumulates damage over time, and ceases to function once it’s too badly damaged. People carrying a disease have enough viral reproduction going on to balance out the virus being destroyed.

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    • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      How about we operate at high school biology levels of understanding?

      As for whether the virus will be eliminated, it depends on the health of the immune system and the person.

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      • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        OED:

        1. totally or partially resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen.
        2. protected or exempt, especially from an obligation or the effects of something.

        Merriam Webster

        1. : not susceptible or responsive especially: having a high degree of resistance to a disease
        2. a: produced by, involved in, or concerned with immunity or an immune response

        If you have a sample of HIV at 37°C in blood, but with all the immune cells removed, it’ll still all become inert after around a week simply due to chemical reactions with other components of blood etc… It’s pretty comparable to a population of animals - if you take away their ability to reproduce, they’ll die of old age when left for long enough even if you’re not actively killing them.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You do not understand what immunity is. you are using it as a metaphor.

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  • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Even if you ignore that there’s an entirely valid sense of the word immune that has nothing do do with biology (i.e. the one in phrases like diplomatic immunity), my original comment is entirely consistent with the dictionary definition of the biological sense of the word. There are probably sub-fields of biology where immunity is used as jargon for something much more specific than the dictionary definition, but this is lemmyshitpost, not a peer-reviewed domain-specific publication.

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• queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think it’s more like how a rock is immune to being covered in vomit.

  It’s still covered in vomit, it just can’t smell or care about it.

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  • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    When a normal person is exposed to HIV, it reproduces inside of them, so can then go on to expose more people, and if there’s enough of it, infect them in turn (if there’s a smaller amount, their immune system will normally be able to clean it up before it gets enough of a foothold). If someone’s lacking the receptor, then no matter how much they were exposed to, their immune system will eventually manage to remove it all without becoming infected because it can’t reproduce. If they had a ludicrously large viral load, then there’s a possibility that it could be passed on before it was destroyed, but most of the ways people get exposed to HIV aren’t enough to infect someone who’s vulnerable, let alone infect someone else via secondary exposure if there’s not been time for the infection to grow.

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