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Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days agoFriendly nations do not meddle in each others elections. Russia did because they are NOT a friendly nation, and to sow discourse. Israel does it also because they are not a friendly nation, they are focused 100% on their own agenda.
Trump/MAGA has already intervened in elections in for instance EU, and that’s because USA is no longer a friendly nation to EU.
But I seriously doubt most of USA’s traditional allies will meddle in USA’s election, because it’s just not something you do.
Friendly nations do not meddle in each others elections.
A naive view. US has always promoted Atlanticist candidates, and has complete control over EU parliament appointees who are all pro NATO, and especially pro NATO subservience. That people view this as the will of the people, and the opposite, election interference is the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off.
Rusprop!
Could you elaborate on the complete control over EU parliament appointees?
It’s Russian propaganda.
I’m assuming the same until shown otherwise with sufficient sources
NATO approved parties select a list of pro NATO candidates who will be appointed to EU parliament based on CIA/Atlanticist tolerance/support for that party. There are 4 leftist representatives from Greece in EU whose party is divided about NATO, and who were suppressed in last election because of it. I’m unsure if the representatives specifically vote against all NATO BS Russophobia. Among NATO member nations AfD leads a group that include Bulgaria’s revival party. (Europe of Sovereign Nations). Both of these parties serve US interests of promoting divisiveness in EU. AfD has had direct boosting/interference for its behalf by Trump and Musk, and if they are ever able to have influence, NATO (performative rather than substantive) opposition will likely be rewarded by US, while simultaneously increasing US purchases.
There are 419 absolute NATO cronies in EU parliament, and the election process ensures that the most devoted to NATO subjugation are appointed, because the CIA rewards the party for input on their list.
Sources? That’s a lot of claims without anything backing it up
ODGreen@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
If you play by the rules while your enemy doesn’t, you’ll be destroyed. Machiavelli said as much. So USA’s traditional allies have to start playing dirty to survive.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I would be OK with giving Russia a taste of their own medicine. But it’s an area where I think we need to be very careful, and not participate too strongly in a race to the bottom.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The direction of this race won’t turn back upwards on its own
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Exactly, there has to be pressure from the nations that still believe in the international rule of law.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Yeah, the West has totally never meddled in Russian elections before…