Comment on Where's my JUUL?

• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I know several people whose lives were entirely wrecked by opiates. This is a dangerous fucking pack of lies that should get you banned for spreading. This is several times worse than spreading anti vaxx rhetoric.

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  • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I know multiple functional addicts. I know way more non functional addicts, but it’s not as black and white as you want it to be.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I could also possibly live years of my life walking in the middle of streets with fast driving cars. But it still would be an absolute fact that it’s a senseless risk to take

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  • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They shouldn’t be handed out like candy, as they did in the USA.

    I’m with you on that.

    Still doesn’t make my stuff a lie, especially what I said about myself

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s a lie to suggest opiates aren’t dangerous and any issue with them should be blamed on anyone else involved. They are incredibly dangerous. It’s absurd I have to even say that.

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      • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I didn’t say that

        They are dangerous, but they are also commonly used in medical situations - like pretty much any surgery

        Why isn’t everyone becoming a junkie?

        In my personal experience, everyone having trouble of getting rid of an opiate addiction, tried to mask some other problems with it.

        The drug itself can’t be really blamed, because it’s not jumping into your mouth.
        People put it there.

        So, why do they do it?

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• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You left an edit that basically blamed people for their mental problems, in service of defending the most dangerously addictive drug maybe to ever exist.

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  • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That was not what I meant to do

    I’m not blaming anyone.
    I’m just saying we should focus more on mental health problems, than punishing drug crimes - because drugs aren’t the problem, but how we as a society handle people with problems

    I thought, I made that clear enough with the “trying to function” part

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There is nothing about acknowledging the dangers of highly addictive substances which says we should punish their users. You definitely shifted blame off the substance itself. Which is quite odd to me, unless your goal is to encourage people to use those drugs.

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      • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And let’s maybe try again:

        I think, we’re having a social problem.

        Just like guns can’t be freely distributed in our current society, drugs shouldn’t be as well.

        But it’s a social problem. A gun doesn’t kill someone, a drug doesn’t forcefully inject itself into you.
        They are things, they can’t be blamed.

        We need to work on the social problems, that give us gun violence and drug problems.

        But we should start by taking responsibility.
        Drug land isn’t Disney land, where nothing can hurt you.

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      • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Of course, because a thing that can’t act on its own is a very weird thing to blame.

        People have some might over their decisions - at least in my understanding of a free will.

        I can’t blame something. I can blame a doctor who didn’t tell me everything or a dealer lying to me, but I can’t blame a substance

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