Comment on A majority of Australians support banning pro-Palestine marches
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 day ago
That n1010 is that they asked 1010 people?
Comment on A majority of Australians support banning pro-Palestine marches
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 day ago
That n1010 is that they asked 1010 people?
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Yep, thats not a bad number to get for a poll.
I’m probably more worried about the speed in which they’ve put this together. So close to the event which they readily admit has made the results deviate from a normal results, which is the whole intention behind putting this out now. They can then assess the drop off in support as the event gets further back in time, and intervening events have their effect.
But the speed is also a concern because they’ve had to do this over the xmas period, when a lot more people are less available. So i have a concern about how representative they were able to make it. I’m sure they tried, resolve has a reasonable reputation for polling, but given the time period for responses it isn’t ideal.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 15 hours ago
Is it not like 0.005 percent of the population assuming we have 20million?
That seems almost nothing to say a majority
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 13 hours ago
If they can get a representative sample then 1000 to 2000 is pretty good, and somewhat industry standard. Using statistical analyses on larger samples will only marginally improve quality of results. A key trick is to gain a representative enough sample, and 1000 to 2000 people tends to be enough to cover most segments/divisions of a population that are useful.
I’ve been reading the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov recently and its incredible how well he explained the predictability of large groups of humans. Modern statisticians are mostly a humble lot, having all been proved wrong many a time, but they all know that we can be fairly predictable on a population level. Listen to or read Nate Silver, Ben Raue, or Antony Green probably some of the most well known in our context of “Australians influenced heavily by US politics” all know they know things, but are fairly humble in their pronouncements about things, contrast this with lifestyle podcasters or most journalists and you’ll see what I mean.
To put another way, a lot of statistical analysis is built off averaging and predicting those measures of central tendencies, which after a certain size is reached vary little with more size, so once you reach a fair size sample the most important, and increasingly tricky part is finding its representative. I think a famous story of this is the readers digest polls who were famously highly reliable, until circulation or readership decreased and suddenly the reliability plummeted.