Comment on Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 loses Game of the Year from the Indie Game Awards

Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don’t think E33 should have qualified as an indie game to begin with.

  Besides the Ai talk, why do you think so? It is an independent game, without a publisher.

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  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They do have a publisher: Kepler Interactive. But so does Blue Prince in fairness, it was published by Raw Fury.

    What constitutes an indie game will always be debated, because it’s almost impossible to define it through black and white rules. If Kojima created a game with a budget of $300m, a cast of Hollywood A-listers and a development team of 200 people and published it himself, would that be an appropriate nomination for the Indie Awards?

    Larian self published BG3, should that have been nominated for Indie Awards?

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Alright i didn’t know they have a publishers.

      What constitutes an indie game will always be debated,

      How? It’s a well defined term. If you don’t have a publisher and are independent, that’s what indie means. It has nothing to do with budget. Even an indie game can be AAA, because the term AAA refers to how expensive it was. These are two different subjects.

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      • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        How? It’s a well defined term. If you don’t have a publisher and are independent, that’s what indie means. It has nothing to do with budget. Even an indie game can be AAA, because the term AAA refers to how expensive it was. These are two different subjects.

        That’s not how the term is used. Definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive. Wikipedia’s definition is far more useful.

        Take the game “Animal Well.” Go look it up if you haven’t heard of it. Animal Well was programmed by a single person, Billy Basso, as developer “Shared Memory.” It was then published by Videogamedunkey’s company “Bigmode,” the very first title Bigmode published.

        By your definition, Animal Well is not an indie game. But it’s exactly the kind of game meant by the term “indie game.” So your definition isn’t a useful one.

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Which means Witcher 3, Baldurs Gate 3 and GTA 6 are indie titles, while the majority of the indie game award nominees and winners are not because they have 3rd party publishers.

        Well defined indeed.

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      • Segab@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        So you would call Half Life 2 and Alyx indie games? But any game published by Devolver Digital like Loop Hero or Gato Roboto aren’t indie despite having tiny budgets and tiny teams?

        That’s kind of a ridiculous definition. It makes way more sense to include criterias like team size and budget, however vague they are.

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