Comment on Indie Game Awards Disqualifies Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Due To Gen AI Usage

• lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So if I train a model from scratch using only my own art is it still bad?

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Okay but first, will you admit that if my cancer curing Unicorn only dispenses 100 doses of its miracle medicine from its butt when I kill a homeless man, you’d agree killing the homeless is a moral good, right?

    Or, you know, we could throw away silly fantasy scenarios.

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s not a fantasy 😆 It’s an actual product everyone can use.

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      • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Really? Can you share your fully realized and operational generative AI that exists, and only created its model from artwork you personally made or retain full legal reproduction rights to?

        Answers Yes, or Sorry, I Lied.

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No no see. That’s not nuanced what that guy is saying is nuanced being a Hardline a****** is the nuance takes so you’re clearly in the wrong here. Sorry man it just is what it is.

    It’s like people have completely f****** forgotten what Photoshop was like when it first hit the scene. The same anti-ai b******* we’re seeing now was leveled completely against Photoshop and basically all digital art.

    Go back and look in the history books and read old diaries and things and you’ll find that photography had all the same anti-ai sentiment that we’re seeing now labeled against it.

    Artists have always adopted just because people are abusing. A new tool does not make the tool bad. It just makes those who are abusing it assholes. Given time artists will adapt in new forms of art. Well come forth from those tools.

    Cuz no matter what you say about AI, if you create and model yourself trained it entirely on your own art and then used it to create deconstructions or modern takes using computers of your own artwork. That’s still f****** hard. It doesn’t matter that it was processed through an AI slot machine. They’re still artistic intent behind the process.

    The only problem with AI right now is that big companies are breaking copyright laws with it. Hell you can make a solid argument that the problem isn’t even AI. It’s just the law breaking around it and the lack of actual intent to use the tools for artistic purposes instead of just cost saving.

    Cuz as much as we all can make fun of quote" prompt engineers. Someone’s sitting down tuning the model putting in specialized data for its training to generate their exact intent is still effort. It’s still in intent. There are people who are making the equivalent of modern art using generative AI.

    People always s*** on new art forms for not being art because it uses some new tool that isn’t traditional and therefore isn’t art. This stuff has been around for a handful of years. Give it enough time and their well-being actual proper art forms that will be built up around these tools. It has happened for hundreds if not thousands of years in human history with every new tool that we have made.

    We just need to direct the anger to the correct place. S***** companies breaking the law, not the tools.

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  • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes. You have forgotten the joy of talking to your neighbors.

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