Comment on Trying to find a messenger bag at Amazon

• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If it holds up longer, start by divind it by each year you use it daily for.

  Once break even, determine if it’s still too expensive .

  Buy cheap, buy twice.
  Buy decent, buy once (for longer time).

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  • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, no and no. Artificial tough fabrics and sewing methods are extremely affordable industrially in 2025. I will not pay 170€ for something that should cost, extremely generously, 50€.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You do realize that those things are affordable due to labor exploitation, right?

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      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Give me numerical data for that. I can buy fucking 10 cent microcontrollers and program them at home because 200 years of industrial development have made it that there’s so little labor involved in their production, it’s a matter of economy of scale. Manufacture loads of cheap, resistant fabrics such as viscosa, manufacture loads of cheap, long-lasting messenger bags. But no, it has to be 100 different small-production models because we need 100 different varieties of messenger bags instead of reliable, affordable, mass-produced Eco-friendly options

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      May be.
      Didnt know wages became affordable as well.

      This aint the US where you don’t pay for the social safety net :)
      Also I’m not into sweatshop products if it can be avoided.

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      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This aint the US where you don’t pay for the social safety net

        Fuck that. In my European country, 25% of young people endure unemployment and nobody can fucking afford housing, where are our safety nets in Spain? Our purchase power is worse than it was 25 years ago, and keeps worsening. Wages in Spain are extremely affordable, we get paid like utter shit, minimum wage is 1300€ a month.

        Go and spend 170€ in a bag 150€ of which go to the capitalist owner of the company.

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• possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean, technically given the layout, that’s a working cycle messenger bag.

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  • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Care to explain? I don’t understand your comment, sorry

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    • possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah I dropped a comma. that particular layout is less of an everyday bag and more of a working bike messenger bag. for that purpose it’s pretty fairly priced- my messenger bag for work was in the $500 range. there’s a pretty big distinction between a regular messenger bag and a bike messenger bag- one sits low and on the hip while bike mess bags are designed for documents and small parcels and they sit high and tight on the back to stay slim for lane splitting and traffic. of course, it’s not just a working messenger bag, it’s also good for cycle commuters and the likes, but they’re less comfortable in that configuration.

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