Comment on "No eating for free allowed! You must only watch it rot on the beach!"

percent@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Morally nobody is being deprived of value because the goods aren’t saleable and thus no effort will be made to collect them. They are rather insisting that others who would have enjoyed them should simply let them rot. So first you are arguing for moral evil for no purpose. Next it is normally the case that goods that are abandoned on purpose eg making no attempt to collect the bananas cannot be stolen.

  Lastly such a threat is absolutely insane.because it is a threat to go after private citizens with the power of the state to punish people for what normally isn’t a crime, wasting the publics resources hurting people for doing something that was never morally wrong.

  Does this still make sense to you?

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  • percent@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sure, I understand the moral arguments, but it’s very common to have legal consequences when taking something that doesn’t belong to you — regardless of morals.

    Of course it would be morally better to give everyone permission to take the bananas. It sounds like that hasn’t happened though, so it seems very simple to understand that there would be legal consequences for taking them.

    How is this not obvious? Did I miss some critical detail?

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    • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You are missing everything basically.

      Normally its actually legally impossible to pursue charges against someone for picking up something you deliberately abandon. Furthermore the act of doing so would in the best case involve spending thousands to tens of thousands of the people’s money to pursue such charges. Threatening to burn the people’s money and hurt people to keep people from eating food that has been abandoned is absolutely crazy.

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      • percent@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ohh I didn’t know they abandoned the bananas deliberately. Yeah that’s an important detail

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• optissima@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Locals are arguing that the Wrecks and Salvage law applies to this, so it seems there is precedent somewhere for them taking the bananas.

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