gotta give the people what they want, and the people crave boilerplate. they crave familiarity. that’s why the force awakens was just a remake of a new hope. jar jar abrams just wanted to give the fans something they knew from their childhood, and, well, that wound up backfiring terribly, lmaooooo
The Force Awakens wasn’t the issue IMO, it’s that the followup movies couldn’t be arsed to do any coherency with the previous movies. What did they even think would happen if you switch to a different director for the second movie who wants to do something else with the trilogy, and then just switch back? It’s not even that the second was a bad followup to the first of the trilogy, it’s that the third didn’t really build on the second.
The Force Awakens wasn’t the issue?!
There has never been a movie that was a bigger issue for a franchise. It was so obviously just a shot for shot reskin of A New Hope even the executives noticed it. That’s how we got to the errors with the second and third movies because The Force Awakens was so clearly garbage in writing and directing. If Abrams hadn’t fucking goofed it so hard by playing it so safe and thinking so little of his audience then none of the following errors would have had to happened.
Meh. The first movie of the second trilogy had tons of issues, too, you can work with that kind of thing if there’s at least a somewhat unified artistic vision - George Lucas had the standing and resources to pull through, JJ Abrams didn’t.
And the suits fucked up, too - there wasn’t anything wrong with the second movie, yet they brought back the guy who supposedly fucked up the first movie.
i’d argue that people want to see pieces made out of passion, not out of “necessity” to satisfy anyone else but the author themself.
For me personally anything made without passion screams of mediocrity. So I’d worry about what i want to convey, what i want to see myself, or what would be most fun to create rather than what some abstract people “want”, if i were you.
Also, no offence, but i genuinely don’t understand why you’re posting all of this the way you do, as in, posting it on 4chan, screenshotting, then posting it there. This idea of yours does not really correlate to the usual content of this community, nor lemmy has a particularily large audience. My question being only releavant only if you’re the actual author, and all of that is not some kind of yet another million-layered post- meta- hyper- para- irony of course
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
gotta give the people what they want, and the people crave boilerplate. they crave familiarity. that’s why the force awakens was just a remake of a new hope. jar jar abrams just wanted to give the fans something they knew from their childhood, and, well, that wound up backfiring terribly, lmaooooo
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 months ago
The Force Awakens wasn’t the issue IMO, it’s that the followup movies couldn’t be arsed to do any coherency with the previous movies. What did they even think would happen if you switch to a different director for the second movie who wants to do something else with the trilogy, and then just switch back? It’s not even that the second was a bad followup to the first of the trilogy, it’s that the third didn’t really build on the second.
How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Force Awakens wasn’t the issue?! There has never been a movie that was a bigger issue for a franchise. It was so obviously just a shot for shot reskin of A New Hope even the executives noticed it. That’s how we got to the errors with the second and third movies because The Force Awakens was so clearly garbage in writing and directing. If Abrams hadn’t fucking goofed it so hard by playing it so safe and thinking so little of his audience then none of the following errors would have had to happened.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 months ago
Meh. The first movie of the second trilogy had tons of issues, too, you can work with that kind of thing if there’s at least a somewhat unified artistic vision - George Lucas had the standing and resources to pull through, JJ Abrams didn’t.
And the suits fucked up, too - there wasn’t anything wrong with the second movie, yet they brought back the guy who supposedly fucked up the first movie.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
i’d argue that people want to see pieces made out of passion, not out of “necessity” to satisfy anyone else but the author themself.
For me personally anything made without passion screams of mediocrity. So I’d worry about what i want to convey, what i want to see myself, or what would be most fun to create rather than what some abstract people “want”, if i were you.
Also, no offence, but i genuinely don’t understand why you’re posting all of this the way you do, as in, posting it on 4chan, screenshotting, then posting it there. This idea of yours does not really correlate to the usual content of this community, nor lemmy has a particularily large audience. My question being only releavant only if you’re the actual author, and all of that is not some kind of yet another million-layered post- meta- hyper- para- irony of course
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
as log as i don’t get banned i seriously do not care
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
cool, but you haven’t answered the question