well by employed they mean they don’t want to pay contracted rates but they also don’t want to pay for benefits. so employ pay and contractor benefits.
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
“you will be employed as an independent contractor”
Dear (US) companies: this is not “employed”. This is commissioned or mandated, depending on the contract details.
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Unusable3151@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Yeah, this is such an anti-labor thing for them to do. I hate seeing stuff like this in general, but from open-source projects it hurts way more.
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I get where you’re coming from. I highly respect this project for its privacy push and it’s sadly a good example of “not all issues have the same priority”.
I honestly can see them just not being able to handle the business risk of a full employee would bring or several other reasons why it’s “okay” from their perspective. I now basically have to choose between two subjects that I find important.
For me I came to the conclusion that I still wish them the best - I can’t hold them to a standard ass high as the corporate world personally, let alone one higher.
Unusable3151@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
It’s not like I’m going to boycott them, but it’s important to always push because they CAN do better. Any “risk” that they are not handling, they are offloading to the workers themselves. It doesn’t just disappear. I’m not saying they should be only hiring full-time devs at competitive silicon valley salaries, but part time on a living wage with worker protections is an important bar to clear for all entities that seek paid labor.
l3db3tt3r@piefed.social 1 month ago
I don’t know if there’s really a better way to manage this need. They need a pretty niche specialized developer, so you have to cast a pretty wide net (globally, mind you) for remote work.
1) It’s a pretty small global team.
2) How would they financially/legally manage the burden of tax/benefit/workers rights across all boarders; especially as a non-profit.Yes, people should know what they are getting into, with independent contractor work.
I just think there is (probably) some nuance to this particular case; where hiring people on as an employee doesn’t make a lot of sense.Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Heh I literally at the same time you posted answered to someone else that I think I er where I’m coming from.
Personally my issue is more with the framing (“looking for an employee”) than with the fact that they want/need a contractor.
I still wish them the best and would encourage everyone qualified to put their energy into a project like this rather than … Close to anything else!
l3db3tt3r@piefed.social 1 month ago
It also sounds like they are trying to fill a part-time role.
“Must be able to commit to spending 80 hours or more a month” = ~20 hours a week, but given the ebb and flow of release/bug/patch work needed…
locuester@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
An independent contractor IS employed. They’re employed by themselves. Self-employed. So if you’re doing work for them, you are employed as an independent contractor doing work for them.
I think it’s pretty clear what they mean. Could have just said “you’ll be paid as a contractor and receive a 1099 (if USA) or 1042-A (non USA)” tho
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
They are employed by themselves. They are not employed AS anything else. You have it right just your conclusion is inconsistent.
It’s for me not about the wording of the last paragraph by the way but about the context and requirements list which makes the impression (to me) of offering an employee/employer relationship which is only broken up in the last line. That’s the part I really don’t like.
This kind of advertisement would be illegal in Germany btw as it would encourage pseudo self employment: someone self employed who is relying on one client only. (And no, not exaggerated: I’ve a legal department at least pull job description from the tech dept similar to this).
saigot@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Yeah that’s a deal breaker for me too. But the flexible and non-full time hours could make it an attractive side hustle or student job. Good luck getting anyone senor though.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 month ago
No salary listed, they’re not getting anyone senior lmao
littleomid@feddit.org 1 month ago
No normal student can do all that is listed.