Indeed. It’s probably more that increasingly more commodities are becoming “smart”, including, but not limited to EVs. I think the reason people are specifically noticing or talking about the “ensmartification” of EVs is because cars are so vastly much more expensive than any other “smart” commodity that, and for most people, an investment of that size needs to be something you can either rely on working for X number of years, or at the very least insure yourself against that happening. But a gadget that can be turned hostile to you, at the drop of a single auto-update, is anything but reliable or dependable - and to my knowledge, becoming enshittified represents a “special” kind of broken, that you can’t insure yourself against.
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noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
Bullshit article. Absolutely nothing about these problems is unique to EVs.
skaffi@infosec.pub 12 hours ago
noxypaws@pawb.social 11 hours ago
Again. None of this is unique to EVs. Cars with internal combustion engines are at least equally as enshittified. At LEAST.
causepix@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Yeah its whole thing is that software gets outdated but like …?
A) The latest ICE vehicles are equally tech’d out the wazoo, infotainment is 1:1 and mechanically they’ve even phased out gear shifters for ones completely controlled by electronics.
B) Software doesn’t just stop working, it’s hardware that becomes obsolete. Windows XP still runs the same as it ever did on the right hardware. There are servers around from the 90s that are still running software written in programming languages that don’t exist anymore. If you always run the same software on the same hardware (as you do in automotive; most vehicles don’t require more than 1-2 OTA updates per year, purely for bug fixes, and each one has a unique build specifically made for its hardware) there’s no reason the two should ever lose compatibility.
C) Reliability is a major factor, taken into account by OEMs, that isn’t nearly as high stakes for other tech sectors. An $800 phone dies in a few years, so what, the buyer has most likely already moved on to the next generation. A $35K car dies in a few years, you’ve probably lost a good number of buyers for life and definitely screwed them over in terms of resale value. Phone OS crashes, whatever, just restart it. Automotive software fails, well people’s lives could very easily be in jeopardy.
It’s not the modular, one-size-fits-all, update-till-the-hardware-fails, move-fast-break-things approach taken in lower-stakes computing. To liken it to a smartphone is completely ridiculous.
noddy@beehaw.org 18 hours ago
A) This. We should stop making this a EV thing. It’s a modern car thing. Electric drivetrain in its essence, is a simple and reliable technology. Its everything else surrounding it thats the issue.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
As if Jeep has figured out how to make a transmission last as long as the warranty. EVs are full of stupid gadgetry to design in obsolescence, because the industry knows from GM Trolley buses and the EV1 these vehicles last a lot longer.
noxypaws@pawb.social 15 hours ago
ICE cars are full of the same gadgetry, so once again this has fuck all to do with EVs.