Comment on Jeopardy wall calendar pretending that the coastline paradox doesn't exist
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 hours agoGo ahead, try to label every real number with an integer, I’ll wait.
Why would I be trying to do this though? You’ve got the argument backwards.
BetterDev@programming.dev 6 hours ago
Exactly! It is unintuitive, but there are as many infinite elements of the set of all real numbers between 0 and 1, as there are in the set between 0 and 100.
I hope this demonstrates what the people here arguing for the paradox are saying, to the people who are arguing that one is obviously longer.
Just because something is obvious, doesn’t make it true :)
almost1337@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
And then aleph numbers get thrown into the conversation
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Alright, I concede. I did it wrong but still ended up with the right answer. There are other responses in this thread with correct explanation for why Asia has more coastline
BetterDev@programming.dev 4 hours ago
Yeah, if you use an arbitrary standardized measuring stick, the problem goes away, as it is no longer infinite.
Still a fun throught experiment to demonstrate how unintuitive infinities are!
Anyway, major kudos to you for engaging with this thread in good faith! Its so rare these days, I barely venture to comment anymore. Respect.
… and thank you for the opportunity to share a weird math fact!
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Hmm I’ve consulted a mathematician that I know, and they say thay cardinality isn’t really the same as “size”, but comparing the two infinite sets of the same cardinality is basically meaningless because even though one set is sorta kinda “bigger” than the other set
BetterDev@programming.dev 6 hours ago
And it may very well be true, but we can’t prove it mathematically.