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Comment on s there a way to make an interface or to use an app like Signal so your texts can't get "legally intercepted" via bluetooth from all car manufacturers?

TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Don’t use vehicle integration between your phone and car at all?

You’re still trusting your phone, though. Unless you’re using something pretty custom like LineageOS, I’d be surprised if there was anything keeping other parties (Google/Apple?) from spying on your phone communications.

Maybe (maybe) there are regulations keeping your carrier from spying on the contents of your texts. (Maybe.) But (again, unless you’re going the extra mile and using LineageOS with F-Droid and no Google apps or something) I’d be surprised if there was anything keeping your phone’s manufacturer or evil apps from intercepting your messages.

But also, cars have worse issues than that. I just got a Subaru and their EULA says that by riding in or driving a Subaru, I agree to allow Subaru to record any audio in the car and use the audio to train AI and such. Subaru isn’t even the worst privacy offender. See here for more info.

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mateomaui@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Oh no, Subaru, no. Not like this.

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mateomaui@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Just read through that whole thing, and now I’m wondering when we’ll start seeing hacking tools to disable certain things, or diy manuals to remove the cabin microphone, etc.

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- TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I pray daily to Saint Louis Rossmann for such tools.
  
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- gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  We have that already. It’s called pulling fuses.
  
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  - mateomaui@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That would definitely work, but depending on how everything is connected, something more surgical may be called for if you still want use of some of the equipment you paid for.
    
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    vivavideri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Even with the fucking wiring diagram, I’m still not sure how to disconnect my goddamn horn from my keyless entry. The horn relay is hooked up to so much shit. (The 2001 doesn’t use a “chirp” with the fob, it uses the whole ass horn.) Both of them. Because naturally there’s two. And they’re both loud as shit. And maybe I want to lock my car without the whole street hearing it. And yes, there’s supposed to be a way to silence it but the particular fobs I got for whatever reason won’t.
    
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- Substance_P@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It seems like more and more there is a need for some kind of privacy inclined instructional website to come out like iFixit to tackle such things.
  
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  - mateomaui@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s probably going to happen, eventually. Still early in the game but there has to be some Subaru (etc) technicians that are just done with all this in their own vehicles.
    
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