Comment on Why do Republicans hate the poor so much?

• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  With no mention of the roads they drive on every day.

  They want toll roads too…

  When you have a shit ton of money, you want everything taxed on use, not earnings.

  Because you earn a lot and spend a very small percentage of that.

  They view any individual that “gets” more than they personally pay in as a “taker”. Despite the entire reasons we have safety nets is statistically someone will need help.

  But once no one anywhere benefits from it more than they paid in, it’s easy for the wealthy to convince us we don’t need it at all. Because it’s not benefiting anyone and has really becomes a waste.

  It’s very basic manipulation.

  You can’t argue “what about roads!” Because they’re argue for toll roads everywhere or a tax on actual miles driven. Don’t let them set the argument, point out how no one knows who will need it till they need it, so we all pay in and hope we’re fortunate enough to not need it. But if we do, we don’t have to die in a gutter.

  Don’t tug on heart strings, explain it as risk management and they might start to see the value

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  • danielton1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nah, every conservative I know hates toll roads with a passion

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, basically everyone hates toll roads, including me. And I think toll roads are a good idea! People just don’t like paying for things they arent used to paying for.

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Roads (not streets) should absolutely be tolled. And adding onto this, any given piece of property should be required to pay the full burden of the infrastructure maintenance required to serve it. The failure to impose appropriate costs like these is a big part of why many areas see rampant suburban sprawl and car dependency: when using the roads is free, you are incentivized to use the free resource as much as possible.

    The same thing would happen if the government said they were giving out unlimited free flour to everyone. Everyone would start using flour as much as possible for as many things as possible (cue Tiktoks explaining how to use flour as makeup, or how to use flour to patch drywall), and you would have to stand in line forever in order to carry away your big armloads of flour, and hope the government flour depot didn’t run out before you got there.

    And that’s what happens with untolled roads. Sitting in traffic is you waiting in line to recieve the underpriced resource of road access. What we actually want is the ability of people to transport themselves from point A to point B quickly, effectively, and affordably, and the solution to that is transit.

    Toll roads, then exempt busses from the tolls.

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