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DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 hours agoYes, eventually the industrialization of Soviet farming paid off despite his nonsense.
Doesn’t stop it from being the major cause of the interwar famines. As you can provably see when it spread to Mao’s newly formed Chinese state and, surprise, caused famines again when they didn’t have the sheer output of an industrialized agrarianian sector to make up for it.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Sure, it was a pervasive piece of reasoning that existed in a system which would kill you if you tried to criticize the pseudoscience du jour. It had a large influence in soviet culture, yep, but it was absolutely not the sole driving force behind things like the Holodomor.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 hours ago
If you don’t want to understand why a system that forced workers and scientists to lie about production numbers or get shot caused famines during industrial centralization and was the absolute worst thing to have happening concurrently I can’t make you.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
So your argument is that it wasn’t just Lysenkoism, but the political situation at the time that exacerbated the faults of Lysenkoism which lead to those famines?
Which has been my entire point this whole time?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 hours ago
Everything is contextual and interconnected, but it was Lysenkoism, only possible under authorianism, that broke the core structural principle of a central command economy.
Lysenkoism isn’t a reference to the actions of Lysenko, it refers to the entire system of failures that created it.
Lysenko’s politically derived pseudoscience that started with ideology instead of evidence combined with Stalinist/Maoist paranoia and conflation of scientific dissent with rebellion and threats to the state created the famines from what would have been shortages during the restructuring.
That is all (and more) described by the term.