Comment on Star Trek: Starfleet Academy | Official Trailer | Paramount+ (NYCC 2025)
Kirk@startrek.website 6 days agoMary Sue
Is this a reference to Saru? Because I would argue strongly that he does not meet the definition of the term “Mary Sue”:
“exceptionally talented in an implausibly wide variety of areas, and may possess skills that are rare or nonexistent in the canon setting. […] lacks any realistic character flaws”
Saru was gifted and possessed “rare skills” yes, but was not without character flaws. For starters he sided with Burhnam during her mutiny and subsequent imprisonment.
milkisklim@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I thought I was being clear and referring to Micheal, who always somehow seems to know the solution to every problem, outside of her stated specialty of xeno-anthropology.
I know Disco was trying to be different from the other shows where there was focus on one character and not the main crew ensemble. I think that was a mistake and it looks like SFA is doing better about being an ensemble cast.
Why were you think I was referring to Saru?
Kirk@startrek.website 4 days ago
I was struggling to think of a character that was presented as “flawless” and Saru is the closest I could think of. I cannot conceive of a definition of “Mary Sue” that would apply to characters that that go to prison for mutiny. If Micheal meets the definition of a “Mary Sue” then Kirk, Sisko, Riker, Scotty, Wesley and Tom Paris do too but I suspect you would disagree with those being included.
milkisklim@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Saru is awesome, and Doug Jones is a genius actor. I think he has the most character growth in the show.
My point is Micheal isn’t a good character in my opinion and I’m hopeful the writers won’t have another character like her in Academy. If you disagree that’s cool, reasonable minds can differ. And if you really disagree, go ahead and block me.
I want Trek to both be good TV and a good representation of Roddenberry’s vision of the future. I’m glad I watched Disco, it brought new life into the fandom.
LLAP
Kirk@startrek.website 3 days ago
If you describe a female character who’s not a Mary Sue as a Mary Sue for no reason other than because you don’t like her, people will think you’re sexist.