Nono, I mean the guy presenting you this evidence in the video. Lonerbox is a genocide denying zionist and has had a two-year-long feud against piker.
It should be a red flag that all the creators dedicating resources to covering this slop are outspoken zionists.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 13 hours ago
Couldn’t care less. Just as “But he’s *Hasan*, he would never do that!” doesn’t really mean anything to me, “But he’s a *Zionist*, he’s obviously wrong!” doesn’t either.
I didn’t really say anything about this video until I had a chance to go through Hasan’s stream and check it out and this is definitely legit. He bought a shock collar and then covered it up with tape to pretend it was a vibration collar. As far as I’m concerned that makes it about 100% likely that he also shocked his dog and lied about that, too. If the other guy’s a Zionist, then sure, he’s a piece of shit too (as long as it’s not one of those “Bernie is a Zionist” clever wordplay constructions where as long as he doesn’t literally want Israel destroyed, he’s a Zionist). They can both be pieces of shit. Hasan still shocked his dog and lied about it, and fuck him for that, whatever else is happening with whatever else.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Yes i think that’s pretty emblematic of the situation
You’re parasocially obsessing over a political streamer who has primarily been covering the Palestinian genocide, alongside streamers who have primarily defended it while mercilessly attacking streamers and artists speaking against Israel. Either you don’t know you’re stepping into two years worth of streamer drama slop, or you’re opportunistically jumping on because of your own distaste for his politics.
Either way, the situation you’ve dedicated the last three days to on this account is certainly not worth yours or anyone else’s time unless you happen to be personally invested in the relative influence of this specific political commentator.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 12 hours ago
I just like dogs. I think if he’s shocking his dog and lying about it, he’s a piece of shit. That’s about the end of it.
I think i said this before, what you’re saying is precisely the logic that tight-knit Christian communities use to protect sexual abusers who are highly placed in the community. It is 100% the same. “How DARE you say this about this person, don’t you know how much good they do, look what bad people their enemies are, you’re probably just confused by all those rumors out there, but it’s BAD people starting those rumors, and look what an important role they play, now I question if YOU’RE one of the bad people…”
I notice also that we only pivoted to
"it’s all just drama from his enemies""why are you talking about this so much"“you’re ruining Palestine with all this posting” after it become extremely objectively clear what actually happened. Before that it was all dew claws, close-ups of freezes from the stream, waving around vibrating collars on stream, that kind of thing. Now we’re all of a sudden in a landscape where there are much bigger issues at play aside from, did he actually shock that dog or not.I posted one video two days ago, then got a tide of incoming accusation and kerfuffle for a day and a half, and then earlier today I decided I would respond to a lot of the incoming hate-mail I was getting from Hasan stans by just posting a new video of something objectively illustrating that Hasan is actually a piece of shit to his dog, every time I got some kind of hate mail. This guy was the one that finally pushed me over the edge to do it:
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16741177
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16741569
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16740783
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16740913
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16748637
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16755963
And so on, there’s more, that’s about half of it. Anyway, I think about 75% of my posts today are in response to stuff like that. I decided it would be funnier to make a new post every time I got one of those, and respond to him with a link to the new post, instead of reporting him. And you know what? I stand by that decision.
(He’s also one of those “Kamala Harris would have been just as bad” people, if you want to aim some of that analyzing-political-motives around at anyone else. That’s one of the other comments he likes to copy-paste to people sometimes, check his profile.)
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Yes, your well-documented interest in dogs, and not your woefully underrepresented distaste for a specific type of leftist commentary that piker happens to advocate for.