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Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
no we don’i. Just like with any other alive being, we can only assume, based on what that alive being is communicating, and our personal perception of reality and experience. A human can be hurt, but we won’t know, as long as they won’t communicate. Everything else is an assumption.
Yes, we do. We can easily see how they respond to stimuli; they cry out in pain when wounded, show fear reactions when presented with dangerous stimuli, and show signs of grief and loss when another animal/person dies.
Like, this isn’t up for debate by some random nobody on the Internet, there’s scientific evidence of that fact.
Therefore, this concept is often excluded in definitions of pain in animals, such as that provided by Zimmerman: “an aversive sensory experience caused by actual or potential injury that elicits protective motor and vegetative reactions, results in learned avoidance and may modify species-specific behaviour, including social behaviour.”[4] Nonhuman animals cannot report their feelings to language-using humans in the same manner as human communication, but observation of their behaviour provides a reasonable indication as to the extent of their pain. Just as with doctors and medics who sometimes share no common language with their patients, the indicators of pain can still be understood.
I’m not even going to bother with the rest of your comment considering how far off base you are here.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
everything’s up for a debate by a random nobody on the internet. it’s in the internet’s core. You’re just as nobody here as everybody else.
Pain response? Stimuli? Sure. Because they *communicate*. as i said.
Except we were talking about the farming methods, those being: form of containment, nutrition… and yes, it also includes the killing method, which is inherently painful… Except any death is painful.
“i don’t like what you’re saying, so i’m not even finishing reading, let alone answering literally every question except literally the first one”
How intealectually lazy of you. Way to crawl up into your comfortable liittle shell of “morality”. How do you expect the problem to be ever fixed if you can’t even discuss the matter?
I’d say you’re all talk about your righteousness in your comfortable bed, but you’re even less than that, as you’re not even talking.